That's not fasciation, it's the one I got from ebay! The yellow turkscap unknown. I put it in a pot in a semi shaded greenhouse, the stems are not very tall yet but it was dug up so I guess it's disturbed. My red asiatics have buds too.
Moby, what a lot of buds! What a lot of lilies! What a lot of lily beetles you might get! I'm up to 111 (lily beetles) but they have temporarily slowed.
Lily beetles haven't made it this far west as of yet... Let's hope it stays that way.... you guys kill them all, ok?
Diann
I do a late morning and evening search, they come out when it's warm, the first lot arrived when it turned suddenly hot. I just pick them off and they go under foot, last year I didn't want to touch them so I tried to get them on a trowel but you loose some that way and they are so hard to find!
Kind like Japanese Beetles.. nasty little things, but they aren't really fast so they are easily stomped... or drowned.. :) Mostly, they devour my wild grape vine and perennial hibiscuses... I resorted to dusting with Seven and I hate using chemicals...
Diann
GREAT SCOTT, Moby!
Now those lilies are the definition of floriferous!
And that is an interesting lily, Wallaby. Looks kinda like a green protea. Seems it's going to be quite short this year too. I don't think I have ever seen a lily show its flower buds so prominently at that height. Wonder what it will do next season when it has settled down.
They seem to develop buds very early on when they're fasciated.
That's nothing, Lefty ~ it was the skinny side.
I was surprised at the development at such a short height too Lefty, but several factors may be at play.
For one, it was a 10 day auction and it was probably dug up and CHOPPED OFF when trying to grow and left thinking it had to produce before it died.
Secondly, it is a strange year here, no rain for over a month other than a small shower a couple of days ago, but this is in a pot in the greenhouse so why should that make any difference? Well, we cleaned up the potato patch today to put in the new crop ( a little late but usually get them all in by the end of this month), there are ALWAYS some left in the ground which by now are shooting through and some have quite a lot of top on.
This year, none through, found the crop of one potato not dug and hardly started sprouting. Why? NO RAIN. It has been much warmer too which would prompt early growth. OK, they are in the ground, and the ground is still wet, so there must be more to growing than meets the eye.
The lily bulb has been watered, but why would it not make a taller stem before making buds? Maybe it knows there is no rain, and has to make flowers before it dies through lack of rain! The potatoes, on the other hand, know they need rain to swell tubers so they are sitting tight until they get it.
So what little messages does rain bring to plants? We know that it brings down the Nitrogen, nothing ever grows the same with watering but shoots away when it rains. Can there be a chemical exchange which triggers responses in plants when it rains? Rain brings negative ions into the atmosphere (and perhaps the ground) which make us feel better, perhaps it is these which trigger plant responses. The lily may react by knowing it can grow taller if there is rain, the potato would sprout in readiness to make tubers.
Some of the red asiatics are fairly short and have buds too.
Yeah, I figured those sprouts of Wallaby's were a bit on the abnormal side, even for whatever species it is. That's why I hinted that it would grow differently next season. Your reasons would be right on in my opinion, Wallaby. You see it a lot in anything that has already decided the season before what it will grow this season, and then this season is particularly stressful. People bring Pinaceae(Pine family) samples like that for me to diagnose quite often.
Moby, with all those flowers you have finally found a redeeming quality of lily fasciation. Now if that could only be a genetic factor to breed . . . there are people that would pay big bucks (not me though).
%#$@$$^#%#!!!!!! rabbits! Got into my species fencing and bit the top of one of the Pumilums, errrrr. My seedling bed is decimated :*( Hoping to try Plantskydd soon, though I am formulating other methods of eradication...
Andrew
Lead poisoning?
Any particular food rabbits like, other than lilies? Something that soaks up liquid...
I know you're upset, Andrew. Almost all of us have lost plants to the rabbits, but I strongly urge you NOT to use poison. You never know what animal besides the rabbit might get into it. It could very well be someone's beloved pet. Also, poison is not a good thing to have around with curious little kids in the house.
You could live trap and relocate (or some other alternative). You could try the Plantskydd or you could improve your fence.
Hoping you choose a safe, humane alternative.
Andrew, You cannot poison. I'll tell D**e on you. Think of a neighbours dog/cat/child who picks it up. or rats. Then they would go under your patio or whatever to die. Then birds start pecking and they die. And so it goes on, along the food chain. how about a bunny fence around your lilies. Friend of mine has88 wire tubes around her martagons right now. for bunnies and squirrels. Have you seen poop. Are you sure its bunnies, > Could be crows who delight at pecking my daffs. They must like yellow (crows).
Hopping off soap box to go outside again.
inanda
All of my lilies have fencing around them, 2"x3" stuff. I thought perhaps a baby rabbit got into the Pumilum. They also seem to love aster etc.etc. Tried trapping but got 13 squirrels and no rabbits last year . They breed so fast poisoning wouldn't work either. Hoping to have Planksydd in a couple weeks, maybe that will work. It's very difficult to restrain myself looking at10 months of work nibbled away GRRRRRRRRRR.
Frustrated in Wisconsin :*(
O, wait maybe I could acquire a hawk :*)
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I'm with Moby - lead poisoning!
There is such a thing as rabbit fencing. It is small weave on the bottom for baby rabbits, and "normal" size holes above. I bait my trap with a cut piece of apple.
I don't believe I was the one to bring up poison. ;*)
Maybe tranquillizers would work. The rabbits would be sleeping for easy pickup.
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Sorry Andrew. Mea culpa. I didn't know what lead poisoning meant.
inanda
That 'lead poisoning' would be from buck shot, dear.
I know now!!!!
I looked up my city laws. Guns, arrows, wrist rockets, are not legal. Heck it appears if I even throw a rock I could get a ticket .:*) Thanks folks for letting me vent. My blood pressure is slowly returning to normal. Ok I will stop hijacking this nice thread on species...
Andrew
Good luck on your battles against Sylvilagus floridanus and its many other cousins!
See your post 3440942 4/28 @ 2:17. That's the one that made me think poison. Sorry if I misunderstood.
Beaker_ch & inanda
The misunderstanding was partial. Your astute minds were correct in picking up on my insinuation. However,as is often the case in text messaging, the mood of the comment was missed. In particular my use of "Caddyshack" facetiousness. That is why I used vagueness and did not actually publicly state "I want to p***** rabbits".
Sounds like Plantskydd is the answer...
All is well,
Andrew
Cheers, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etpHKueh6S0&mode=related&search=
Don't worry about it, Andrew. I think we've all had dreams of blowing up our yards at one time or another.
I think we've all had dreams of blowing up our yards at one time or another.
The unknown yellow turkscap is now around a foot tall, with 6 buds on each stem starting to go horizontal.
There are more pale buds in the centre which are aborting, but I think it's doing well considering what's it's been through.
I can't wait to see this one!
Me too, no ideas on the form?
No ideas, except.... it doesn't look hairy!
True, neither are peas........
Wallaby1, I think you and Moby should start a "freak show" thread for lilies. This is better than a side show. I am thrilled with the emerging lilies in my garden, still a long way off to bloom time. I need to go and check them out more carefully and see if I have any ones that are 'Fasciated'. I had one last year. DH and I are on big time bunny patrol. The dogs got one that was stupid enough to venture into the deer fenced garden area during the daytime. We left the carcass out as a warning. But the hawks didn't leave it there long. We are spraying with a variety of brands as the bunnies keep making holes in the fence to try to get at the lilies, hosta, tulips and what ever else they fancy. They nibbled on a mess of new roses that I planted and was contemplating pruning. They did an OK job. Not sure if any sprays work better than the next. We do find in the unfenced yard lots of sampling and spitting out by the deer. But I still enjoy seeing both the deer and the rabbits, just not with a tulip in their mouth. Patti
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The freak show isn't too far away....... and yes, there will most certainly be a thread. :)
I had a freak show in the winter. The baby bulbs are in the ground trying to grow.
So how are your babies doing? Are they recovering OK?
Amaizing about your unknown yellow turkscap: how that many leaves could be crammed into that short of a stalk in the previous pic. I dare you to count them, LOL.
Better still lefty, I think the picture is good enough for you to try to count the leaves!
This really is a mystery, I seem to be coming across all sorts of mysteries. Consider the circumstances, people bought farm in Ireland, plant already there and well established. Who was it that planted it, it may not have even been the previous owner, it might have been there for a very long time. It could have even been a plant hunter from over a hundred years ago! Or a friend of a plant hunter.
Tune in for the next episode........
BTW, I have quite a few of my mystery L phippinense (or whatever) X L gloriosoides (if it did) seeds germinating!
Question,
If the buds are already formed on a short stalk, what part of the stalk grows to create height? Sorry it ha been awhile since botany class :*)
Are you asking why the stalk is so short? This has happened to me and to be honest, I don't know why. Maybe it's just part of settling in or maybe something more serious. I have so many, I guess I've never noticed if the plant came back the next year or not.
Leftwood made a comment once about lilies and their ability to survive through putting off seeds and offset bulbs. It might be a response to the lily thinking it is dying.
Def. mystery of the year. Will probably be OK next year. Looking forward to bloom.
inanda
Bumping so we don't lose this thread.
inanda
