Help me Identify or get close to this poinciana type tree

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Okay..Nigeria would be the closest country..
Thanks

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Let us know if you get any answers...☺

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Okay,
I sent to Sierra Leonne, Ivory Coast, Senegal, Ghana and Nigeria....none of them are subscribers though.

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

So...you can still get a d-mail to them, yes? And who knows, they may respond.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

true...We'll see..
I did find a person in Liberia once...but no response..

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

I think you may just have to have a Garden Party of your own, invite all your knowledgable gardening buddies, and have a "name that tree" contest!

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

LOL, truth will reveal itself if the bugger ever blooms..

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Rj, when you sowed the seed. Did it look like this?

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Is this a better pic. It may appear a little blurry.

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

I'm scarifying this seed, and will try to sow it, for comparision. :-)

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes...it looked pretty much like that...it's very blurry...but the color is pretty much the same!

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

That's the tamarind's seed that I had, it was made into a candy, which I ate. But I think the seed is viable so I'm going to try to sow it and we'll see what happens. :-)
Kim

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

LOL...that would fun project!

We use to use the seeds in a game the Africans played.

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

I remembered climbing up the tree to harvest the fruits. But, I'm not convinced that yours is the same Tamarine. However, there is another bigger variety that I remember. The fruits are big, and they tasted very sweet. I wished if there is a site that specialized on tropical fruits that I can look them up.

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

Could that be a request to Dave for yet another forum? Me thinks so.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

I googled African Tamarind trees....the leaves look pretty similar to me...check it out
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/tamarind.html

http://www.surf-mexico.com/states/national/nature/tamarind.htm

http://www.ntbg.org/plants/plant_details.php?rid=838&plantid=10971

I did notice that the asian Tamrind trees seem to have smaller, and more organized rows of leaves than the African



And for you adventerous folks...this site has great African food recipes
http://www.congocookbook.com/fish_and_seafood_recipes/mchuzi_wa_samaki.html



Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

Thank you, Randy. When I worked for the American designer, Anthony Mark Hankins, not once but twice we had an African Choir as guests for special occasions. So wish I knew their names. Never in my life have I heard such fantastic music. I believe that Eden is supposed to have been in Africa. Can you help us with that? Somewhat like the recording of *Graceland* only 10 times better.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

You want some African Music selections?

Here is an interesting site that does feature a few different tamarinds..unfortuneatly...can't get the pictures large enough..always tantalizing info..but there is always something...

http://www.aluka.org/action/doBrowseResults?sa=1&st=216239&execbr=&sls=

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

You bet on the music. The beat of our hearts.

Will be going to the grocery tomorrow to find all kinds of exotic fruits. Can't wait. Fiesta usually has the best picks. I know, Houston home. First shopped there on hwy 1960.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

I know...that is where my Papaya trees came from ...Fiesta....who needs to order on line when we have the best grocery stores in the world ...full of seeds in the fresh produce section!

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

yay! Found a new source for seed. Gosh, how long did the seed to make a tree? I may not live long enough.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

African Music
This one, you can actually stream live radio from different places
http://www.afropop.org/

These are artist from my section of W. Africa...Senegal and Nigeria
http://biochem.chem.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~endo/africa.html

You may find this site helfpul in finding all sorts of unusual music throughout the world
http://www.rootsworld.com/rw/

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Papayas grow very, very quickly from seed. Nina kept seed from both papaya and mango while helping me with the fruit salad for the wedding...they have both already sprouted and it hasn't even been 4 weeks!

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

The trees take no time at all..
Simply follow the steps I've out lined here for drying seeds...The trees can achieve 8 feet by the end of the summer provided the conditions for it are proper. plant in spring...tall as 8 feet by end of summer. Don't use pots, don't worry about them dying in the winter..you will have too many to deal with...
http://davesgarden.com/community/blogs/t/rjuddharrison/1993/

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Randy - can't remember, do you know Cusco? I want Christi to try them. What do you think?

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

Thanks to both of you. Lot to keep me busy tomorrow. Let's see, download music,....then go to Fiesta and buy exotic fruits, come home....

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

LOL.....
No, but you know what we should do..is start a garden new age exchange music program and share each others cool garden music!!

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

GASP! Why didn't we think of that before??????

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

I remember us talking about it on your visit...I was wishing I had some of my music ready to go, cause I remember your DH was really digging one of them..I think it was Liquid Mind...there are several CD's, but they're all good
You know what we could do though..is catalogue some of our music in a thread..like just list what we like.
Here is liquid mind, I love how they describe it...Musical Healthcare...it's true!
http://www.liquidmindmusic.com/

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

I can start a new thread in Tropical Gardening..and then each person can go into their own post and keep editing to add new music..!

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Randy, you want to start the thread? I think its a great idea!

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

Oh what a great idea! Music is the thread of my soul. Cannot live without it.

Make a joyful noise, Oh my soul. Let all who hear have joy.

Tell me where.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes..it's started..under the Tropical Gardening forum..called
What's that music playing?
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/799760/

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Question to you mavens of music: does anyone know the song with this line - "When I die don't bury me deep so I can hear the rain when I sleep".... I think I have the words right. i heard this only once and it runs thru my mind often!!!

Hoping...carol

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

Chrissy is a walking encyclopedia of song lyrics. When she gets on here, no doubt she will know. Have you tried googling? I get answers to the most unexpected things by doing that. Mike doesn't even turn on the pc and he just said "Ought to be able to google it". hahahaha He has heard that phrase often enough.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Wow guys, I sent these guys an email and asked how a person not affiliated with a research institute can have access, they wrote back and gave me a password and access for 6months..said they are working on individual login access...but the site is awsome! They have scales to measure leaf sizes..and quite a data base..
There is some samples of Tamarindis indica with 2 and half inch long leaves..trees from madagasgar.
then there is a tool where you can calibrate the mouse and do measurements on the picture.... coolest research plant site that's user friendly...
It looks as though their documentation is primarily centered around African plants though..
http://www.aluka.org/

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

Randy, I printed out 24 pages of your journal today. Purchased 50#'s each dried molasses, alfalfa pellets and corn meal. I am reading all our your wonderful research. You are a master professor already. Will let you do the hard work and condense it into something I might understand. Thank you for sharing.

Christi

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Wonderful Christi...wow..there were 24 pages!!! lol...I had no idea..
Yes...you have just discovered the "secret" that you've been going on about right there girl...those alfalfa pellets are miracle pellets...your garden will love you forever.!

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Alfalfa pellets? What do you do with them, will they work in pots, and do you know of a place I can order them? Enquiring minds want to know!

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

I now have homework to do. Must study to know how and when.
Have been using Epsom Salt forever but never really knew why.
You would be so disappointed if you were to actually see my garden. BUT I'M LEARNING. Trying really hard. Just don't think I will ever learn all of those Latin names.

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