Magnolialover cries

Western, WI(Zone 4a)

Mags, this is a pic of the lily "Arena" that I dug out of a grouping of lilies. I think it has a virus?
What do you think?
I did pot it up and it is away from the rest of my lilies. Just wish to see what the blossom looks like when it opens.

Maxine

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Fox River Valley Are, WI(Zone 5a)

Now that one looks ill. The leaves have the same pattern that a virus causes on the flowers. Arena may be difficult to tell via the flower since it is primarily white.

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Maxine, I would toss it. The leaves are deformed as well as discolored.

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Geez! I was hoping to find good news. I'm really concern about this Lilies' virus.

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Oh yeah, that lily looks baaaaad. Toss it.

Lisbon, IA(Zone 5a)

I'm a lily novice and even I don't think that one looks good.... I'm sorry Maxine!

Diann

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

MagnoliaLover, Hope you isolated and saved as many as you could. I treat my pale whatevers with chelated iron and epsom salts. I also use alfalfa & manure tea mixture for watering. It stinks while it is cooking.

inanda

Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

Busy night here, but Yikes! Maxine, that one does look sick. It looks equal to or worse than the one I tossed. Were aphids worse for you last year too, Maxine?
inanda, I'd love to have your stinky recipe. Will you share it? You see I have this test plot ready for experimentation now.

Western, WI(Zone 4a)

No aphids or bugs of any kind. Just showed up like overnight.

Maxine

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

Alfalfa Recipe
1-45 gal clean drum
Mosquito netting

14 - 15 double handfuls of pure alfalfa horse cubes
(without corn additives) Corn inhibits germination so I stay away from it. If you can get rabbit pellets
without corn, pellets are much easier to use. Molasses is OK but pure alfalfa is best

14 -16 shovelfuls old manure(here in town have to buy by the bag)

7 - 8 heaping tablespoons epsom salts


Fill barrel with water, cover with mosquito netting (west nile) and let stand for a week or two, till you cant stand the smell. Beware small children. When you have used the water, refill barrrel with water & salts and wait again. 2nd time barrel is all used up, spread the sludge where it will do most good and start again.
I use alfalfa a lot. Full of micro-nutrients. Trace elements. When living in the country had 3 barrels on the go. Here in town use 5 gal ex-food buckets. Not safe for barrels in this urban setting. 3 or 4 double handfuls alfalfa cubes, 2 - 3 shovels manure, couple tablespoons epsom salts. Where acidity is needed (japanese iris) add vinegar to each watering can.

inanda




Columbia Heights, MN(Zone 4a)

Inanda, how much vinagar to a quart container? I've been search for miracid without much luck. How often do you water with the vinagar?

Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

Inanda...sounds great. I shall try it.

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

JIs and vinegar. I use every time I water them. We have very alkaline soil here. I don't measure. Just add a splodge to the watering can every time I water. I have baby pine cones as mulch around them but don't know it that does any good. I like to think so. Only have 7 or so. Doesn't take too much time to water them. Recntly mulched with compost and then more baby pine cones.

Had a wopsies nest in my compost last fall so couldn't use. Just finished emptying that bin and rebuilding with new pallets. OT I know. Waiting for it to warm up a bit to get outside.

inanda

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

Just visited the hosta forum. Funnilly enough found this over there re alfalfa. Guess I better toddle off to the feed store soon. Have never used alfalfa on hostas. Use it all the time on lilies and iris.

http://hostafaq.westside.com/wsContentPublisher/story.view?Rowld=16

inanda

edited to correct a typo.

This message was edited May 28, 2007 5:47 AM

Columbia Heights, MN(Zone 4a)

ah...wopsies?

Western, WI(Zone 4a)

Yea Mags, found a couple of more that had virus. Good think I was in the weeding mode this morning after finishing up weeding in the garden.
Where in the world does this come from? These were two of my largest orien/pets.

Maxine

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

So does this mean that because mine is growing sideways that there is something wrong with it? It grew straight last year in a pot. It was transplanted inground early this spring.

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Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Your foliage looks healthy, vossner. Every year the new stalk has to find it's way out of the bulb and it follows the route of least resistance. Of course most stalks grow straight up but there are always a few that have a problem. I wouldn't try to straighten it as it might break off.

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

so it's not sick. what do I do if anything. I know about the breaking, I already broke one trying to get it straight.

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Just put up with it's persnickiness for the season. You might prop it up a few inches with a block of wood but don't push your luck! Really I see no sign of disease such as discoloration, twisted, contorted foliage, die-off of leaves (symptom of botrytis).

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

thanks pard.

Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

vossner, the foliage looks good on that one from here.
Maxine I have to hope it was a bad spring and that all of these lilies aren't full of virus. Dig, isolate, trhen wait and see on any that are questionable.

Columbia Heights, MN(Zone 4a)

Nery, what type of lily is that laying n the ground? I wonder of you trenched it, if it would put of new bublets?

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

I think this is a Menorca

Columbia Heights, MN(Zone 4a)

Oh, goodie! Are you up for an experiment to create bulblets seeing as the stem is on the ground anyway?

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

beaker_ch,
I've several that I would do the experiment. ... like that one that's producing bubils on the stalk. Should I bury the young plant with bulbils and all?

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

Didn't rain too much yesterday till PM so wasn't playing inside. Wopsies = wasps. Maye ourcold has FINALLY left for the summer so will again start hardening things off. I want to get things in the ground, particularly lilies that shouldn't still be inside anyway.
inanda

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

yep, I'm up for it. Do I need to do anything or just let it be?

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

inanda,
For the life of me, I couldn't figure out where in the globe are you? May I ask? Canada? How cold does it get there in zone 2?
Kim

Columbia Heights, MN(Zone 4a)

Nery, seeing as this is an LA, I'm hoping the longiflorium in it will help produce bulblets other than at the mother bulb site. It looks like it already bloomed, so cut off what's left of the bloom. LAs will not produce seed.

Where the leaves start at the bottom of the stem, with a very sharp knief make a little cut at the base of the leaf into the stem. You can do as many as you want or just a few. Cover up to 1/3 of the stem with soil leaving the top 2/3s in the sun. To keep your soil from runniing away on you, peg down with a little mesh type fabric, netting or screen material.

This process is called trenching. After sometime, maybe four to six weeks, you should see bulblets forming where you made the nicks. Leave them unitl fall and then plant out to a depth of about one inch. You should see flowers in a year or two.

Do not use this same plant for trenching next year. Also, you can create the trenching affect by digging up a plant and tipping it so that it lays at an angle from the ground.

East Texas, United States(Zone 8a)

will do. thanks for the instructions. One more question. We are going thru a very rainy spell right now. Show I wait a couple of days until rain subsides?

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Lily love ~ inanda lives in Manitoba, Canada

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Thanks, Moby.

Columbia Heights, MN(Zone 4a)

Sure, wait a bit for your rainy spell to quit. You have a longer growing season, so I don't think it would matter.

Brooklyn, NY

Oh Magnolialover - I am new to this forum - my heart bleeds for you. There is something I always read from from my favorite garden writer Henry Mitchell for those dark moments.

" It is not nice to garden anywhere. Everywhere there are violent winds, startling once -per-five-centuries floods,unprecedented droughts, record-setting freezes, abusive and blasting heats never known before. There is no place, no garden where these terrible things do not drive gardeners mad.... Gardeners are the ones who ruin after ruin get on with the high defiance of nature herself, creating, in the very face of her chaos and tornado, the bower of roses and the pride of Irises ... Defiance is what makes gardeners."

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Well, if that doesn't stiffen the backbone and make you proud to be a dirt encrusted gardener, nothing will.

Welcome, darcy!

Southern, WI(Zone 5a)

Thank you , darcy for the poem. How true it is..... welcome to the lily forum.

Brooklyn, NY

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Darcy, thank you for sharing. Welcome to our group.
Hi Mag, any new development with your lilies?
Moby; have you ever tried Voodoo Lily, since you mentioned you've a taste for some rare and unusual plants and their traits.
Beaker_ch; I've a few tiny lilies with builblets growing on top of the plants, what should I do with them? I've no clues. (I believe those are Tiger lilies?) I'll quarantine them for the duration, planting them in something separate from my lilies bed.
Kim

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

lol Voodoo Lily is very cool, but not the stench!

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