DJ'S 2ND TIME AROUND PT 2

WE CAME FROM HERE : http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1144523/#top

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AS FOR NOW USE THIS FORUM TO LIST WHAT YOU HAVE FOR OTHERS

THE FLIGHT COULD CHANGE


NEWBIE CRAIGBENNETT-----------MI
NEWBIE MELLEN------------------------IOWA
RICKCOREY--------------------WA
NEWBIE EVELYN_INTHEGARDEN--CALF
SHERMAN99--------------------CALF
CHEERMOM-------------------AZ
NEWBIE CRIT-----------------------------OK
NEWBIE STEADYCAM3--------------TX
NEWBIE DEEPSEA72---------------------LA
NEWBIE FROGGIE_GIRL---------------MS
LAVINAMAE--------------------NC
FRUITOFTHEVINE----------VA
JENNFERSHIPWAY---------MD
MERRYMATH---------------PA
CAROLYN22--------------------PA
JANAESTONE------------------OH
DIAMOND9192002-------------IND

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hope this is right-please let me know if i have left anyone off:
sending to :
diamond-gazania
janaestone-mex sunflowe
deejay-yellow allysum
carolyn22-garlic chives
merrymath-dianthus ipswich pinks
crit-white allysum, hh country romance, shasta daisy, aster,geranium, flax, lilac cosmos, french hh
jennifer-spider flower, lily of valley, hb vine, salvia hot lips, jewel mix nasturtium
steady-scarlet runner beans, small zinias

maxine-beets, cabage, delphiniums already mailed

receiving from-
rick-salvia seeds,
diamond-monarda citrioda
jennifer-rose mallow, catch fly, esparanza (recd)
merrymath-mother of thyme, azalea, gardenia, red coleus
steadycam-mealy blue sage, tx red sage
crit-mile a minute

if i have left anyone/anything off please let me know.

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On Wednesday, Jan. 12th, I intend to send the already requested coleus and petunia seeds directly to each participant who made the request.

SEEDS OTHERS HAVE REQUESTED FROM ME FOR 2ND ROBIN

COREY
Dwarf Sunflower, Teddy Bear
Creeping Thyme, Mother of Thyme, Wild Thyme , Thymus serpyllum
Blue Wave Petunias will send Jan 12th

DEEJAY (SUSIE)
Dwarf Sunflower, Teddy Bear (Helianthus annuus)
Dwarf Sunflower, Sunny Smile (F1) (Helianthus annuus)
Coleus, Sonatina Velvet Red (Solenostemon scutellariodes) will send Jan 12th
Coleus, Sonatina Scarlet Yellow (Solenostemon scutellarioides) will send Jan 12th
Easy Wave Mystic Pink

JENNIFER
Dwarf Sunflower, Teddy Bear (Helianthus annuus)
Dwarf Sunflower, Sunny Smile (F1) (Helianthus annuus)
Coleus, Sonatina Velvet Red (Solenostemon scutellariodes) will send Jan 12th
Coleus, Sonatina Scarlet Yellow (Solenostemon scutellarioides) will send Jan 12th
Bearded Bellflower (Campanula barbata)
ORNAMENTAL PEPPER SEEDS

janaestone (Di)
Dwarf Sunflower, Sunny Smile (F1) (Helianthus annuus)
'Irish Eyes' sunflower
Bearded Bellflower (Campanula barbata)
Creeping thyme

LavinaMae
Coleus, Sonatina Velvet Red (Solenostemon scutellariodes) will send Jan 12th
Coleus, Sonatina Scarlet Yellow (Solenostemon scutellarioides) will send Jan 12th

SHERMAN (Karen)
mother of thyme,
azalea
gardenia
velvet red coleus will send Jan 12th
Bearded Bellflower (Campanula barbata)
SUNFLOWER

CRIT
Dwarf Sunflower, Teddy Bear (Helianthus annuus)
Dwarf Sunflower, Sunny Smile (F1) (Helianthus annuus)
Coleus, Sonatina Velvet Red (Solenostemon scutellariodes) will send Jan 12th
Coleus, Sonatina Scarlet Yellow (Solenostemon scutellarioides) will send Jan 12th
Bearded Bellflower (Campanula barbata)

CRAIG
Japanese Red Leaf Maple (bloodgood) will send Jan 12th
Petunia (ALREADY SENT)

DIAMOND AKA ANITA
Nieko Blue Hydrangea
Blue wave petunia will send Jan 12th
Orange trumpet vine
New Guinea Impatien will send Jan 12th
Prince Charles Clemantis will send Jan 12th

MAXINE
Easy Wave Mystic Pink will send Jan 12th
Blue Wave Petunia will send Jan 12th

CAROLYN WILL SEND ALL OF HERS ON JAN 12TH
Coleus, Sonatina Velvet Red (Solenostemon scutellariodes)
Coleus, Sonatina Scarlet Yellow (Solenostemon scutellarioides)
Bearded Bellflower (Campanula barbata)
White Salvia
New Guinea Impatien
Marigold Snowdrift



WHAT I REQUESTED

CRIT, Rose Moss-mixed seeds.

CRAIG Baby Breath and Tidy Tips and a few Green Zebra tomato and Sunflower Sunspot

JENNIFER Snapdragon- Baby mix seeds

KAREN (sherman99) dianthus ipswich pinks.

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This is the link to my have/want list:

Crit http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=8262953

If everyone would list the post where their lists are, it would save a lot of re-doing. Maybe deejay could post them all on the first post here, if that isn't too much work for her. I wouldn't mind going down and finding the link to their lists like this. Just a suggestion. Below is my list.

Crit wrote:
For Second Round of Flight..............

~~~~~****My WANTS:*****~~~~~
Any scented geranium (except citronella)
Any scented herbs (except cinnamon basil or amethist purple sage)
Any sweet-smelling fragrant plants/flowers
Hibiscus
Canna
Shade plants and flowers
Passion Vine
Coleus
Giant Gold Marigold
Witch Hazel
Fennell
Corkscrew Vine
Lolipop plant
Shrimp plant
Lipstick plant-any unusual plant seeds like this and the 2 above)
Butterfly and Hummingbird attractors
heliotrope



***~~~**My HAVES**~~~~***
Amethist Purple Sage
Cinnamon Basil
Castor Beans
Cypress Vine - Red
Mimosa Tree-Pink
Zinnia-Tall-Mixed Colors
Rose Moss-mixed
Moonflower-Datura-upright white


Lots of other seeds too numerous to list that I have rec'd from people-just ask and I'll check, if I have enough I will share.
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Side seeds: (Please let me know if I am missing anyone)

janaestone: Pink (fushia) Crepe Myrtle
sherman99/Karen: Mile a Minute Vine (1st pkg)
Mixed Salvia, Joe Pye Weed, Amethist (purple) Sage (2nd pkg)
careyanna: Pink Mimosa
jennifershipway: Moonflower, Red Cypress Vine, Castor Bean, Moss Rose
merrymath/Mary: Moss Rose
RickCorey_WA: Joe Pye Weed, Amethist (purple) Sage, White flowers for Goddess Garden






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I have seeds for jennifer shipway,jennastone and merrymath. if I forgot anyone please let me know. If anyone else wants to do some trades that would be great. I have some good stuff to feed the robin when I get it.

Off the top of my head, here is some of what I have available

Dill 'Mammoth (A host plant for Swallowtail butterflies)

Lemon Grass, East Indian
Lemon grass smells fantastic. It is used in many Asian dishes, but is also excellent in tea. Besides its culinary uses, it is also a mosquito repellent. It is easy to grow in pots and over winter inside

Sempervivum (Hens and Chicks aka Houseleeks)

Red Wave Petunia
Mystic Pink Easy Wave Petunia
Garlic Chives
Ornamental Pepper (hot)
Asiatic Lily NOID
Oriental Lily NOID


MARY

what shipping co should I use when the robbin gets to me? also it looks like I will be first on the second time around so will people be mailing me my trades? Please let me know. thanks

hi mary, would you want to trade anything on my list for your 2 wave patunias and the lemon grass? please let me know. thanks

craig we use the post office delivery confirmation. deejay has all the mailing labels included in the robin.

questions-

jen-do you still want some jewel mix nasturtium?

craig- do you still want some scarlet runner beans? if you have any muck sunflower seeds left would like some. thanks


someone was looking for autumn joy sedum, cant find the post, i found a small packet, let me know

I have scarlett runners now. is there another name for muck sunflowers? I dont think I have that. your welcome to any of the sunflowers I do have though. Craig

Whoa! Looks like I am second in line. Better get listing what I have, eh? Just returned this evening from a week-end with our son/DIL. Holiday traveling is now over...long/extended holidays but very nice times wherever we went. I will try to post in the next couple of days.

Any shipping order is OK by me. If it is more convenient to put a long hop after me, I don't mind the few dollars difference in postage.

HAVE:

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self-collected :

- SLUG RESISTANT White Alyssum from my garden, from a "flower mix".
Profusely re-seeding & profusely flowering all summer and fall in Zone 8.
Mostly prostrate, 9-14" tall. Spreads out 12-18" from its roots in the cracks between a sidewalk and a raised bed.
Variety unknown but looks like this:
- - Sweet Alyssum, Sweet Alison, Seaside Lobularia,
- - Lobularia maritima 'Snow Crystals'
- - http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/65150/

- Morning Glory Star of Yelta (vine needs trellis or fence)
- Convolulus ("Morning Glory", blue and yellow, more bush than vine)
- random-pollinated white-stem Bok Choy
- very random-pollinated 2009 petunia mix, that came out pretty well this year with more blue-purple than pink or white.
- a LOT of very mild, huge California (Anaheim?) chili pepper seeds
- a LOT of very hot, small, Thai or Japanese chili pepper seeds

(The chili seeds came from whole peppers from a fruit stand, late summer 2010. They may be hybrid F2. They have unknown germination rates, but they were not totally dry when I bought them, so they were never dried by overheating.)

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commercial seed from Hazzard's 2010

Zinnia elegans "Benary Giant" - Crimson 4-5" giant dahlia-shaped blooms
Zinnia elegans "Benary Giant" - Orange 4-5" giant dahlia-shaped blooms
Zinnia elegans "Benary Giant" - Deep Red 4-5" giant dahlia flowered (smaller qty)

Zinnia "Oklahoma" Scarlet 1½" double and semi double blooms, produces all summer, resists mildew
Zinnia "Oklahoma" Golden Yellow 1½" double and semi double blooms, produces all summer, resists mildew

Zinnia elegans "Gem Orange" 1½" beehive shape new from Hazzards (lots)
Zinnia elegans "Lilliput Choice" 1½" beehive shape, double, pink, red, white, yellow, orange & coral (lots)

Zinnia Cut & Come Again Mix 3" flat petal, dome shape double pumila type, pink, red, white & yellow/orange (lots)

Salvia transylvanica "Blue Spires" 18-24" tall, 18-24" spacing. Perennial to Zone 4. Blue to Blue-Violet. (small qty)
Salvia x superba "Violet Queen" 6-12" tall space 24-36". Aromatic Perennial to Zone 7. violet,
Salvia nemerosasylvestris "Amethyst Blue" 18" tall. Perennial to Zone 5. bluish pink or pale amythest

Swan River Daisy = Brachyscome iberidifolia (Asteraceae Family)
- Brachycome Splendor Mix - Blue & White & Purple/Violet/Lavender
- Annual - sow 5 seeds per cell indoors before last frost
- "from seed to sales in 12 weeks"
- 12-18" tall, 6-9" spacing


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Received in trades, may be able to share some of these pkts since I won't have room to start them all this year:

- Salvia coccinea Scarlet Sage - - Full Sun (part shade?) zone 8-10 Fall 2010 DG RR
- Salvia strata ? farinacea? Annual 18-24" tall
- Salvia farinacea "Victoria Blue" - - ?P as A? PNW? reseeds P z9 &10 sometimes zone 8
- Salvia leucantha Mexican Bush Sage - - purple-vilolet or near-white TP full sun
- Salvia azurea "Grandiflora" - - Medium Blue P herbaceous Drought Tolerant, full sun
- Salvia nemorosa "Sensation Rose" P to z9b full sun, part sh
- Salvia sylvestris "Est Friesland"

- more tomato varieties than I have room to plant. (A generous swap from Heather.) list on request
- more mild & hot chili pepper varieties than I have room to plant (Heather) list on request


WANT:
- - trailing Lobelia / Lobelia erinus, blue or blue/violet or sapphire

- - Creeping Thyme / Mother of Thyme / Wild Thyme / Thymus serpyllum

Nothing that is likely to lose viability in 1 year. Through many people's generosity, I suddenly have more varieties than I can plant this year, and just learned that Salvia and Delphiniums have short viability lifetimes.

Easy to start without heating mats. SLUG-RESISTANT!
Rain-tolerant. Tolerant of partial shade to shade. Non-tropical (Zone 8).
Easy to WS for a newbie. Or, started outdoors after last frost.
Mostly perennials or re-seeding in Zone 8a, mostly white. No big bushes. Easy to grow!

Corey


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Corey, I would like a nice helping of your White Alyssum. I hope it is SLUG-RESISTANT.

MARY

I also have available Prince Charles Clemantis seeds.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/255761/

MARY

Mary,

Sure thing. I know I promised some to SOMEONE in this group, but it's too late at night to recall who. My notes at work remember.

Also, I can put a multi-dose bag of white Alyssum into the second round of the RR, as well as refreshing the bags of Zinnias. I don't have much variety to offer, so I'll go with quantity.

Oh yes! I also have Swan River Daisy Mix, Brachyscome something

Corey

Mary, I see that you are sending me the petunia seeds I requested. Would it be too much trouble for you to include the red wave petunia seeds and mystic pink wave petunia seeds in the package with the other petunia seeds?

Thanks ever so much. Maybe I won't have to buy so many seeds or plants for the 9 hanging baskets we have hanging on our porch and thru the yard.

Maxine

Maxine, recorded your petunia request.

Corey, may I have a small portion of Swan River Daisy Mix, Brachyscome?

MARY

Morning All Looking Good here :) Just wanted to Remind you to check the flight Pattern Before sending your seed out .as i said I Don't travel much so I do not have a road map :)

The Robin Should Land today At ERINS / MOMOFTWO so it is over 1/2 way home :)
have to go to town today so will try to get back in later this afternoon.

have a safe & Fun MONDAY
susie

I updated my "HAVES" list above, in Post #8301677 .

WANT:
= = = Creeping Thyme, Mother of Thyme, Wild Thyme, Thymus serpyllum
= = = trailing Lobelia / Lobelia erinus, blue or blue/violet or sapphire
= = = white flowers easy to start without a heating mat, perennial or re-seeding in Zone 8.


SENDING OUT:

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To Evelyn:
small qtys of 5 varieties of Delphiniums, so they aren't lost to the slugs!

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To JenniferShipway:
Lupin
Delphinium (small qty)
Rose of Sharon (White)
(NO Snow White cherry tomato seeds)

10 seeds of each of 3 Salvia,
- Salvia nemerosasylvestris "Amethyst Blue"
- Salvia superba "Violet Queen"
- Salvia transylvanica "Blue Spires"
plus maybe small qtys of other Salvias

2 peppers for sure: very hot "Thai or Japanese Chili" and "CA, probably Anaheim". (LOTS)


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Crit/Patti, does this sound right?

You were going to send to me:
Walk On Me
Amethist Sage and
Joe Pye weed seed.

To Patti: maybe only small qtys of some:
Salvia nemerosasylvestris "Amethyst Blue" - - Perennial 18" tall zone 5
Salvia superba "Violet Queen" - - Blue-Violet aromatic Perennial 6-12" tall space 24-36"
Salvia transylvanica "Blue Spires" - - Perennial blue-violet 18-24" tall space18-24" (small qty)
Lupin - just comm. "Russell Blend" many-color-mix but when it self-sows, it reverts to blue & white
Columbine - some of 1-2 types
Hibiscus / Rose of Sharon = white, also red Texas Star

and probably
small qty of some small bush tomatoes
Delphiniums (or is it Delphinia?)
other Salvia (some from trades, SMALL QTY, unless I find I can winter sow all I have)


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To Maxine:
Early Wonder (very early, semi-determinate, dark pink)
Early Kus Ali (mid-season, 69-80 days)
Early Cascade (red-orange. Said to be hybrid originally, but seems to come true from seed.)
Golden Rave (Hybrid, plum, gold)
Bonny Best


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COREY WHO IS Sequee, DON'T HAVE THEM ON THIS LIST ?????

& Has anyone seen or heard from NEWBIE DEEPSEA72---------------------LA
at this point he is still in but we need for him to check in by time the robin takes fight .
so deepsea if your watching please let us know .

well its been quite a day so I will be back in the morning you all have a great evening .
susie
sorry i didnot get my list up today

Hi Susie

OK, our trade mkust be outside of this RR ...

Yes, searching further through my notes, Sequee is the DG memebr I did my very first seed trade with! Before that, I was a "seed virgin".

Corey

New add on to my available list

Rose of Sharon 'Blue Bird' (Hibiscus syriacus)

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/59297/

MARY

Just checking in.

thanks ben

Wow I Have Spent the last 2 hrs going through my Have list so its now going to take me 2 hrs to get them list .

these are marked as FT (From trade) MG ( MY GARDENS ) Com (commercial)

FT-- IRISH VELVET POPPIES --- 1
FT--BALSAM IMPATIENTS ---1
FT--BLANKET FLOWER --ARIZONIA SUN --1
FT--COREOPSIS---LANCE LEAF---2
FT--CHOCOLATE DAISY ----3
FT--CORNFLOWER --WHITE SWAN --1
FT--DBL HOLLYHOCK--PALE YELLOW--1
FT--TRIPLE HOLLYHOCK--PINK---2
FT-- HOLLYHOCK --OUTHOUSE OLD FASHION---3
FT--PERSIMMON TREE---3 SEEDS
FT --WHITE VEIN DUTCHMAN PIPE --2
FT --4 'OCLOCK---FUSCIA 1
FT--TRUMPET VINE --PINK 1

FT VEGGIES EXTRAS
ACORN SQUASH --- 2
WHITE RUNNER BEANS 2
LIMA BEANS 1
GREASY BEANS 2
PUMPKIN PIE SEEDS-- 6-8 SEEDS 4
CUSHAW SQUASH 6-8 SEEDS 1
BELL PEPPERS RED --4
BELL PEPPER CHOCOLATE---0
CABBAGE ---GOLDEN ACRES 2

MY GARDEN
DELPHINIUMS LT BLUE WITH SHAFFE 4
MT EVEREST ALLIUM SEEDS WITH SHAFFE 2
RED CASTER BEAN 4 SEEDS --1

COM--BIRDS EYE- GLOBE GILIA--- 1
COM--SALVIA --BLUE QUEEN DWARF---1
COM--WATER FORGET-ME-NOTS----3-4
COM--CHINESE FORGET-ME-NOTS---2-4
COM--ALPINE FORGET-ME-NOTS---2-4
COM--CHINESE HOUSES -- INNOCENCE --2-4
COM--NICOTINA ALATA MIX----- 2-3
COM--ROSE MALLOW----2-4
COM--SCENTED EVENING STOCK-2-
COM--PURPLE TANSY----3-4
COM--SCARLET SAGE----2-3
COM --WHITE DAISY----2-3
COM--VERBASCUM-- ROMAN CANDLES--2-3
COM--ANCHUSA BLUE ANGLE --A---1
COM---BRACHYCOME --BROVO MIX --A--1
COM-- VISCARIA OCULATA MIX --A-- 4
COM--MIGNONETTE WHITE --A--2
COM--ASTER MYLADY MIX --2
COM--CHRYSANTHEMUMS--RAINBOW MIX ---4-5


MY WISH LIST WOULD LIKE TO FIND A FEW OF THESE I GUESS :)
RUDBECKIAS
COLORFULL SUNFLOWERS
SALVIA --SEASCAPE
SCABIOSA'S
POPPY DBLS
POPPY BLUE
NIGELLA'S
MALOPE --GLACIER FRUIT
MARIGOLD --SOLAN
FLOWERING CABBAGE
GAILLARDIAS ----BURGUNDY--RAZZLE DAZZLE
DIGATALIS /FOXGLOVE MILK CHOCOLATE--APRICOT
COSMO'S----DBL'S -- BRIGHT COLORED ONES
CALENDULAS --- PINKS OR PORCUPINE
ASTER'S ----MOONSHINE---PINK TOWER--SPIDERS-- HULK---STARLIGHT---POMPOM
YARROW ---- ANY BUT YELLOW I HAVE

WELL I GUESS THAT IS IT AS PROMISED :)) HAVE A GREAT DAY .
SUSIE

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Susie, may I have some of the following seeds?

ACORN SQUASH
JAPONICIA STRIPE MAIZE CORN
SALVIA --BLUE QUEEN DWARF
SCENTED EVENING STOCK
ANCHUSA BLUE ANGEL

Jennifer, recorded your request for

Rose of Sharon 'Blue Bird' (Hibiscus syriacus)

MARY







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Susie, will check in my stash and see if I have any rudbeckia seed left.
I would like and will pay postage for them.

1-white runner beans
2-bell peppers [red]
3-chocolate bell pepper
4-golden acres cabbage
5-delphinium seeds

Will try and get down stair later today and then will let you know about the rudbeckia seeds.

Maxine

What is greasy beans? Have you raised these? If they are good, please include some for me.

deejay-

please put me down for:

mt everest allium
castor bean
nicotiana alata

i will search my seeds today for your wants, i am sure i have some

thanks

I Have seeds saved for
MERRYMATH
MAXINE
SHERMAN

Jen You had ask me for chrysanthemum / charm fanfare & candy lilies
& I cannot find either i thing i put them in the robin when it went out.
sorry .

Maxine, I have very small qtys of these tomatoes set aside for you. All are indeterminate except one. All are 'early' except one. These notes are just from reading, I have not grown them out yet.

Early Wonder (very early, semi-determinate, dark pink)
Early Kus Ali (mid-season, 69-80 days)
Early Cascade (red-orange. Said to be hybrid originally, but seems to come true from seed.)
Golden Rave (Hybrid, plum, gold)
Bonny Best

Corey

Deejay9 That is fine. I did not see any in the Round Robin.


I am doing a Valentines Day Seed Swap if anybody is interested in joining.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1148713/

Jennifer

Thanks Corey.

I just ordered some more [late] tomato seeds from Baker Creek Heirloom seeds.
Would you like a few?
Can let you know ripe dates if that helps?

Maxine

Maxine, my eyes were bigger than my beds during the last few swaps I participated in! And seeds that need coddling (tomatoes or peppers) have moved to "last on my list" for this year.

So I need to say "no" to more T&P this year. But thanks! For next year and 2013, though, I have plans and high hopes ...

After I get a cold frame built, heating pad, thermostat and more indoor lights, my ambition for tomatoes and peppers will go back up. (I wish I knew why 4-foot shop lights went from $8-10 to $30-40! I wnat a 4-tube T4 set, maybe overdriven! But I'm too cheap.)

I just splurged on a cubic yard of sand, and a yard of fine pine bark. Made enoguh WELL-draining soil for a 2'x16'x8" rasied bed. My neighbor let me put it on her side of our shared sidewalk! First, my pot-bound lavatera go there to make a screen, and then several kinds of Salvia will go in-between the Lavatera.

I also plan to extend it from 16 feet to 20-30, but need another trunkfull or two of 8x16" pavers to make more walls.

Corey

Corey, are you able to work in you yard now?
Mine is covered with around 15" of that white stuff yet.
Sounds very good what you are planning. I have always wanted to try a raised bed for veggies, maybe when I get a little older and its harder to bend over?

Maxine

deejay ..... could I get a package of each of your hollyhocks, please?

Corey -

I like the idea of putting the salvias with the lavatera. I'll be they compliment each other beautifully. I would love to see pictures of the two plants together.

I have May Night Salvia with Lady's Mantel. I like the way the purple of the salvia plays off the chartreuse of the Lady's Mantel.

GM ALL not Sure what happen to the last post i typed this morning :(

crit i have your seeds ready for you :) now i'm off to plant a few seeds .
hope you easterners are staying in & staying warm.
susie

Maxine,

We had several warm days in a row and my "dirtpile" thawed enough to work it. After adding more compost and some kind of soil innoculants, it may graduate from "dirt" to "soil" some day!

My neighbors seems to have a more gravelly mix underfoot than I do, so I hope that putting 8" of soil on top of that will be enough for tough Lavatera and Salvia to find root space in.

Last night, 2" of snow came down and did not melt right away. This excited many locals who don't see much snow every year. This morning we got more-typical cold drizzle on top of it, so we have snow, slush and packed slush. Eveyone is cautioning each other to "Be careful" and "be safe". Our company solemly put out a memo warning people that snow and frozen water (called "ice") is slippery to wlak on, and advised us to wear special non-slip footwear and "be safe".

Gag. "Wimp World". Oh, well. At least I didn't have to shovel two feet of snow and chip inches of real ice off my car!

For something REALLY scary, I suggest my own face 30 seconds after starting to wake up, hair standing straight on end from going to bed right after a shower, reflected in the bathroom mirror. YOW! That woke me right up. "Who IS that Morning-of-the-Living-Dead zombie with the corn-sheaf hairdo?!?

So I put on my uber-nerd thick black framed glasses copied from Frank Langella in "The Ninth Gate" and took my own picture.

No one should ever, ever, EVER see me before coffee.

Corey

Carolyn,

Thanks for the confirmation! I have approximately zero artistic sense and wasn't sure whether pink-and-blue/violet would be pretty or nauseous. Your photo says "pretty"!

I'm going to put a variety of blues, violets and whites into the new 2'x16'x8" raised bed along with pink Lavatera thuringacea to see which color combos do work. I'm guessing that pink-and-scarlet is not a good combo. (The Lava seems to be Rosa. They were allegedly "Barnsley" from Hirt's Nursery but don't look like "Barnsley".)

Maybe Salvia lyrata "Purple Knockout" with dark purple foliage.
Maybe "Husker's Red" Penstemon, with dark reddish foliage and white flowers?

The original "garden planning" line of thought was more like this, than any aesthetic consideration:

1. I need to get these 6-8 Lavatera out of pots and into soil, but have no room. (And two Lavas STOLE 90% of my best bed by sprawling!)

2. My neighbor let me put them on her side of the sidewalk: YAYY!

3. I also need lots more room for all the Salvia kind people traded to me, but have no unused beds.

4. Lavatera needs well drained soil.
Salvia needs well-drained soil.
Neither should be over-watered or over-fertilized.
Neither needs deep rich soil.
Both want full sun, and this new bed is at least as sunny as any part of my yard.

5. Hmmmm.

6. Both in the same bed? I guess so.

My first idea was to try to plant just ONE variety of Salvia between each Lavatera.

If WS seed-starting works well, I might have so many that I need to temporarily park TWO varieties of salvia between each Lavatera! I guess different species of Lava don't cross-polinate, but it just seems "right" not to have them mixed up with each other. What do people think?

I do have 2 more, smaller, spaces that I could turn into raised beds over the next few months, if I have time, energy and budget for compost, sand, mulch and paving stones for the walls. Rather shady and surrounded by far too many bush and tree roots, but they are "square feet" without anything growing now. (One will become my "Goddess Garden", perhaps with Salvia coccinea 'Coral Nymph'.)

I figure that if I try enough kinds of Salvia in both, I'll find SOME varieties that do well enough there. And if not, I'll keep moving the Salvia around and plant something else there, like mint or thyme or Alyssum.

And I'll probably start by laying down 2-3 thicknesses of corrugated cardboard laid down to give the Salvia a chance to establish themselves before they have to fight off the bush and tree roots. I would use heavy lanscaping plastic to keep roots away, but I HATE doing that. The main competition is from Azeleas, Rhododendrons and a Pine tree. The yew bushes that are near there now might be fearsome, but as time is available, I uproot them without pity or much remorse.

Certainly I want to keep multiple varieties of the same salvia species separate so I can save seed from each separately without blurring colors. I have more than one kind of:
- S. farinacea
- S. superba
- S. coccinea and maybe
- S. viridis.

If ALL of those thrive, I will have a huge collection! Unfortunately, it sounds as if Salvia seed will "expire" in one year, so I won't be able to try again next year. I plan to do some WS and some summer sowing of each species to improve my chances.

The best thing of all is that Salvia is said to be SLUG RESISTANT! Hah! Take THAT, ravening Slug Army! Nah-nah-nye-naah-naah!


I see that Lavatera "should" be spaced out by 4 to 6 feet. I was thinking of crowding them down to 3' spacing, and then maybe pruning bottom branches to give the Salvia room. Even when sprawled out in their first year, two of them did not sprawl much more than 3-4 feet each. And a neighbor's Lavatera, in AWFULL heavy soil, was only 2.5 - 3 feet in diameter.


Corey