Morning Glories 2009 #22

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Pandurata, a beautiful Morning Glory.

Lovely!

Thank you Boston area.

Oh so pretty and natural looking. I can't wait to have those growing and blooming here! A wonderful picture of those. Put them in plant files! ;D

Pandurata is beautiful!

This is one of the last blooms of the year. It is the mailbox flowers doing their own thing reseeding each year. I notice some of the shiboris lost the white flecks and are showing light and dark purple flecks. This hige was tagged but no seeds. I did manage to use the pollen. Karen

Thanks Debra. I'll be sending your pandy seeds soon along
with some others I hope you will enjoy.

Thanks Karen, beautiful purple hige.

This is the single version. I`m beginning to think the doubling of the i purpurea hige is dominant to the single bloom. I`m not totally sure yet if there is complete or partial dominance(like split personality?) here but it is possible either they are single bloom or they are not.

Single blooms will not show doubled blooms if selfed but will make double blooms if crossed with double blooms....but those doubled offspring resulting from this cross of double x single can make seeds for both doubles and single blooms. Karen

Thanks Jackie. :)

Love that pic, the dbl flower is showing in the background.

a very nice colour of blue and purple, I think.. single or double.. colour is wonderful..

Thank you. Everything about the morning glories no matter what the species, size or shape is beautiful. Thats what I say!

I echo that sentiment

they are pretty. . just wish mine would decide to grow!

Ipomea Questions for the MG Experts:

What factors influence the bloom time (sexual maturity)
Photo period? Day length? Temperature?
Any methods to force them into bloom?
I notice some vines will die-off after setting seed?
Is this like tomatoes that can be bred for determinate/indeterminate?
What is best fertilizer? 20-20-20 or 10-20-10?
Are there any pruning methods to encourage/discourage branching?
Will different species hybridize?

ApopkaJohn, I hope you do not mind my giving advice, as I am a MG newbie!
Light amout(photo period) should be on the high side.
Day lenght is species dependant.
I know of no methods to force bloom, besides stress for many species.
NO FERTILIZER!!! Destroys blooms. LOTS of leaves though.
Those are all the questions I can answer now...

Karen, love that one!


Patootie, gorgeous MG!

I am lovin' the Fall/Winter blooms y'all are posting! Keep em coming!

Jackie - Your Pandurata photo is beautiful! What a stunning vine!

Karen, Debra, and John - So lovely all those amazing blooms! :-)

John - I agree with much of what DMgardener said with the exception that I DO fertilize with Bloom Booster by MiracleGro. I. purpureas seem to like the cooler temps, whereas I. nils like warm summer climate conditions. Some Ipomoea are annuals and some are perennials, so many cultivars and species do die after they've reached the end of their life cycle within a few months to a year. Also, it has been my experience that many MGs like rich, well drained soil.

Here is a photo of a Purple Flaked bloom which is an I. purpurea.

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Though I much prefer the full striped Purple Flaked blooms. :-)

And then we have the Pink Flaked I. purpurea blooms.

And here is the solid color of Pink Flaked. It looks a lot like Crimson Rambler to me. :-)

And finally on the Pink Flaked vine is this one that is mostly white with some pink flakes.

John, I use bloombuster, as they do like to be fed while growing. some will set seeds and die, as they have done their job, some will keep going if pinched after bloom, and some will keep going if kept watered and have sun and fed. last night in my basement garden I had a bud formed. this am at 6 am, it was one third open,, i moved the grow light away from it and then at 3:oo pm it was fully opened, but by 6 pm it was closed. another one I had as a bud this am is now fully opened, and it is not in the direct light but is in filtered light. some vines I brought in that looked dead and finished have grown new leaaves and are vining again. It seems to me that different species act and grow in many different ways. when I feed them, they bloom for me. I use tomatoe food on my brugmansias, they like more phosphorus, mgs like high nitrogen. I am not an expert, but have been experimenting.

Becky, really nice blooms! here is another vine I thought was dead but sprang to life

Thanks DMGardener and Becky. Becky, great flaked blooms
I love the flaked blooms more and more
Debra, really nice colors on those pretty blooms.

In the formula of fertilizer, the first number is nitrogen may be necessary at the beginning of growth but I'm not sure because there are always enough in the soil.

Next year I will try to select this Grand'Pa Ott Ipomoea purpurea to get flowers with a white blizzard throat. Because it is this contrast which gives a blue effect.

Dany, Thanks for your work in szarvas, nice stripes and their shape reminds me of a petunia.

My picture from September shows good purple-red color, but you can see by the leaves that this variety (scarlet Ohara?) did not like the Florida heat and humidity.

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I am curious to see what the seeds from the Roman Candy and the Scarlett O Hara will produce from my grow outs this year since they were intermingled I am sure they were cross pollinated.

John, that one is incredible!! When I planted Burpee 'Scarlett O' Hara' seeds this year, and grand total of 6 flowers displayed a red throat. ALL the rest(wayyyy to many to count) were 'Wine and Roses' type. Do you have any seeds available? Oh, and what is the size of your bloom? Mine (true ones) were 2 inches.

Dany, the blizzard 'Grandpa Ott's' is spectacular!

joeswife, I will be interested in what happens!

And patootie, I know this a bit late, but your panduata is marvelous!☺

Debra - Very nice blooms! :-) I do like the solid throat Scarlett OHara.

Jackie - Thanks! I am so biased to the Flaked I. purpureas. They are my favorite I. purp blooms of all that I have grown. But I do like the Rebecca, too. There is something about those stripes that is so attractive against the big green leaves. Purple Flaked is my top favorite.

John - I have to agree with DMgardener. You have blooms that I consider to be the "true" SOH! Any SOH seeds that I have grown had white throats, which does look more like Wine and Roses. I, too, am interested in the size of your blooms.

Is SOH an I. purpurea or an I. nil?

Dany - Should be an interesting to see what characteristics show up in such a cross. :-)

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Gorgeous Scarlett Ohara blooms Debra and John. Dany
a beautiful Grandpa Otts

Good question Becky, Scarlett O ' Hara a Nil or a Purpurea.
I think it's pretty much a Iponoea NIL, they often also placed in the Tricolor.

For this variant purpurea Grand'Pa Ott I will select from year to year , I'll just mark the flowers have white throats to multiply only those .
I don't want to get large well marked white throad as Crimson Rambler.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/168715/

I wasn't sure myself of Scarlet O'Hara so looked it up. It's a Ip. Nil

Yep,SOH is ipomoea nil. Nice pictures to see here! The variety is what keeps me going.

I wasn't sure about this one either. Dany is right in that many times
the catalogs place them in Ip tri-color. I think that was because they
market a red, white and blue blend as a patriotic blend. The white
being Pearly Gates, tri-color and the blue, Heavenly Blue, also
tri-color. They may have just assumed the red was also tri-color.

hmmmm.. I thought pearly gates was an i purp all this time..

Debra, No it's a tri-color, yellow eye and all.
All the tricolors have the yellow eye.

Just got these pics from someone I sent salvia seeds to Costa Rica. Kind of need ID as I might be getting a few seeds from there.

And this is the other. She said there's a yellow one but it started to rain before she could get a pic.

WOW,
Very nice this ipomoea becomes purple after a bath.

Helena - Are those photos of two DIFFERENT Ipomoea plants?