My first sprout!...it seems too early?

I caught this thread kinda late~but I have tow Asiatics about 3 inches now, we just had a first week of 80s. I hope my OPs make the Summer! and Steve FTWorth, thanks for the best simple description I have ever had for discerning the varieties of Lilies. I am not that edjumacated in lilies ( !...lol... ) but love them and plant a few new bulbs each year. Thanks!!
:D

You're welcome fernman - and good luck with your lilies! Be sure to post pictures!

^_^

Look at this! LOL

I see buds

Steve, I am so jealous!! We're supposed to get snow this weekend. Keep the pictures coming! :)

Loving the spring show everybody!

We were out of town over the weekend and came home to find lots of blooms. Daffs are really showing off now, Jetfire, Fragrant Breeze, Barret Browning, Ice King, and Tete a tete are in full bloom now, as well as my first tulips of the year, Kaufmaniana 'Heart's Desire' and T.turkestanica. Hope the weather cooperates today to get some pics.

I bet you had a warm spell that triggered your lily. I would keep the sprout very well mulched until your nights are 40 degrees or higher. Some of my crazy lilies will often start blooming in February and I have loads of sprouts even of my Oriental Trumpets.
However, I live in a part of San Diego that rarely has frezzing nights, even in the winter.

mine are all popping up and I think its due the fact we had an extraordinarily cold 3-5 days with snow, chilling them better than normal. They dont grow like this or as well in any years past
~then the warmth too...
:Darren

Steve and I running close for the lilium to come! Yes!

This relates to Maxine's comment about lilies that multiply. The Oriental/Trumpet, Anastasia has been an amazing multiplier. I had good sized new stems last year, on a bulb that I had planted just the previous year, and shoots that have started this year are substantial (larger than a fat pencil). My question to others on this thread is do you know of any other OT's that are strong multipliers? Thanks

marty13, I love OTs and have been adding a few each year. So far I've found them all to multiply well.

Noticed yesterday that one of my Silk Road must be very happy and is sending up multiple stalks.

I wished I can tell which is my Silkroad, that's so good a news Nan. I'm looking forward to seeing mine.

Ditto on Anastasia. I start with three bulbs and now must have 20. I have it in three different places in my yard and actually gave some to a friend. I paid something like $40 for three bulbs to The Lily Garden, and cringed at the time. But it's a perfect lily - huge but elegant, scented, long blooming, and as happy in 90 plus degree heat as -20 with very basic care, and it looks great anywhere. I love to pair it with grasses.

I also agree about Silk Road, which has incredibly strong stems and doesn't nod. But for incredible multiplication the king is temple lily Silver Sunburst, which I got from Old House Gardens. I have to move some every couple of years. Great problem!

Donna

oops! I just checked my garden it map and it is Anastasia that seems to have multiplied so well! Sorry about that....

I did little maps of my beds because I was getiing so many lily bulbs and couldn't remember where they were and dug into a few. It really comes in handy when watching for what comes back in the spring.

Sounds like I NEED Anastasia! Perhaps this fall one of you with lots of Anastasia babies would be interested in trading a few bulbs :-)

I have 5 Anastasia not counting babies planted ...I think I could spare a couple Neal!

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Ooohh goody! Lily hog that I am, I'm pretty sure I've got some pretties to tempt you with :-)

Neal, you are a nut. :) LOL

Gemini,
I would love to trade with you. It looks like I will have 3-4 good sized bulbs from Anastasia this Fall. Of course I won't know for sure until I dig.

DonnaMack,
Thanks or info on Silver Sunburst. I will see if Old House Gardens have any in stock.

Well, I hate to say it but I am pretty easy to tempt when it comes to lilies!! LOL


Neal, if you are interested just Dmail me and I will put it on the list for a fall trade.

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so the rule for Asiatic lilies goes for all lilies? I understand I can multiple my lilies by taking "scales" from the bulbs - but I should do this in the fall? I have a lot of oriental lilies and some tall oriental- trumpet lily crosses.

Seandor, you can even propagate lilies by leaves cuttings, yes, leaves. I haven't tried the method. But I read that we could. I transplanted some seedling of some species, native lilies (tiger lilies), one broke off from the bulb. I stuck the whole emerging stalk into the potting soil last couple weeks, so far, the thing hasn't wilt. So I 'afraid' the thing has taken roots. lol.

I don't think rooting would ever take place from just a lily leaf, unless it is in vitro (tissue culture), or it is a modified leaf (otherwise known as a bulb scale).

A leaf and stem cutting, however, may be possible. I have done so with a Asian species, but I don't know if it has produced a bulb too, or just roots. The experiment is still in progress.

Scaling can be done at any time of year, as far as I know. It is most often done in the fall because that is when we normally purchase or dig bulbs, and scaling requires no extra hassle.

Leftwood,

I thought I read that there were types of lilies - certain Asiatics like Tigers mainly - where a "bulb" actually forrmed at the leaf junction with the stem - I though I had some of those as well - and I thought there was a thread on this last year - maybe this is what Lily is talking about. Have you heard of this?

I am thinking Lily is talking about bubils. The baby bulbs that form on the stalks of some types of lilies.

Thanks! I LOVE lilies - and I am growing some from seeds (given to me by other DG members) - but I like the idea I can make more and share them ^_^

I just looked up in the thread I saw I posted about my spring bulbs, thinking I was on Steve's spring bulb thread, LOL.

Wow, the Lily sprouts are showing up like crazy after a few warm days! So many of them look huge, its very exciting! Several are showing up in the bed that was dug by the back hoe last fall during septic tank work- I've been sweating over those! Now, if my 'Zagorra' and 'Silk Road' show back up, I'll consider it divine intervention.

Steve, I suppose one could divide asiatic lilies into two subgroups: 1)those with bulbils and 2)those without. But botanically, it isn't done, as several bulbil forming lilies are not closely related to each other at all, and the gene is hidden in many, many others that do not normally form bulbils.

To put all that gobble-dee-gook in plain Engish: while Tiger lilies are by far the most well known lilies that produce bulbils, there are some trumpet lilies and upfacing lilies that make bulbils too. So it wouldn't be a good way of subdividing the lily group, as they are not all closely related.

I suspect that that if lilies are divided into two subgroups (which they are for germinating purposes only), it would be by the type of germination that the seed goes through: hypogeal or epigeal. And even that gets complicated for the regular gardener.

Lefty, do you have lily scales potted up and growing now, house or GH?
I potted up mine that I scaled last fall and some are really taking off. Others are being poky, but have them on a heat mat in a SE exposure window.

Maxine

I have no scales or scale bulblets in the house right now (no GH). I do have some overwintering outside with my other potted materials. I do have some lily seedlings growing now - ones that I assumed would probably be delayed hypogeal germinating, and they came up immediately.

Careful about the heatmat until you get comfortable with it. Sometimes they get too warm, and always it means the soil dries out faster, even if it is enclosed in a plastic bag.

Hello lily lovers and happy spring. It's been fun to catch up here and "see" you all again after such a long llllong winter. This thread has gone in all directions, so this may not be the best place for this question, but: are martagon sprouts okay in colder temps? We're going away for the weekend, and they're predicting lows in the low thirties with the potential for a little snow. It doesn't sound too bad, but I suppose it could be worse than they're saying now, and I'm wondering if I need to protect the marts at all. Some are about 4 in. up.

Thanks!

hi All~~ I just planted a Japnese bulb, (Momogasumi) ~Japanese Water Lily; what are the thoughts on me getting blooms this year? I ordered it from Dutch Gardens. I looked healthy though not large like the Asiatic or OP bulbs I am used to.
Thanks~!
Darren

Darren, I believe that's a Japanese Iris you've got.

http://www.dutchgardens.com/Momogasumi%20Iris/29049,default,pd.html

Is that it?

Gemini_sage is right. It's a Japanese iris and not a bulb at all. It wants a soil that's acidic and moist. Full sun is preferable but not mandatory. I bought two from Dutch Gardens last year and one did bloom within two months of planting it. Good luck.

Wicker, oh wow, I'd probably protect them if it was feasible. Maybe some black garden pots upside down on them. Hopefully, some of the more experience lily growers will chime in here and give you a better answer.

Right, My error~it is not a bulb, lol (insert silly grin here) and thanks for the good words. My other Japanese irises missed their second year, or, i missed the blooms! This will be 4th year on them; ...Just thought I could find the knowledge here as planting after winter was odd to me (thinking bulbs at that point) and was right as always bout the DG people~! Thanks again!
:Darren

Give the Japanese iris lots and lots of water, and if you're not agains it, Miracle Gro, alternating with Miracid every two weeks. You might get blooms this year, more likely next.

Hi Diann and thanks. Think I'll take your advice and be extra cautious. Hope this weekend doesn't get too terribly cold for you. Laura

I hope things stay safe for you too, Laura. :) If it's going to get nasty cold the best thing that could happen is that you'll get some snow to insulate those plants. Keep me posted, ok?

Diann

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