Show us the No-ids you grow

Thanks IrisMA.

Mrs Ed, ploid ploid is cute!

The difference between diplods, and tetraploids to us iris lovers is the looks. The diploids have smaller flowers, normally, and more delicate petals and slender stems. The leaves often flop a little at the tips. The tetraploids have larger flowers, of better substance and stronger stems.

The first tetraploids were found. They are Amas and Ricardi. I think this was around the late 1800s.

So if an Iris is listed in HIPS it is not necessarily a diploid? Are any modern iris diploid? Can one assume that if an iris has those above traits that it is diploid?

I know what you are saying about the old ones. i dont' care for fussy plants, and I really like the idea of iris that have been around forever.

Thank you to all for sharing your iris knowlege. Very good pictures of spathes and a nice description of diploids and tettraploids.

diploid TBs sort of changed to tet in "40S & 50S" There were more color combinations available. Most modern diploid are the miniature talls. Historic in iris land means 30 yrs old. there are discusions on what to call newer 'historics' but no decision as yet.

I saw "almost historics" on the lists. I'm just starting research on an article about historics. What makes them such, etc. I'm kind of disturbed by irises only as old as I am called "historics" LOL.

30 yr old historics are the HIPS designation--go to them for technical terms.

I guess my designation would be a double historic plus. Sixty five, almost 66.

Speaking of HIPS. I sent the 3 yr enrollment fee thru paypal on the 14th
and an e-mail on the 19th saying I hadn't received confirmation with a password
and user name from them. Is this common or did I drop the ball somewhere
along the line? I am in no great hurry and sometimes people are tied up with
other things.

no, it took me over a week to get a packet in the mail. I got the packet the day that I emailed someone there!

Mrs_Ed - in reference to "only 30 years old = historic?"

you have to remember about 1000 new irises are introduced into commerce every year. most don't stay in commerce more than 10 years or so, but the favorites can stay in commerce for 50 years or more. so 30 years later, something can actually be hard to find, rare to buy, impossibly to identity, and some great ones were getting "lost forever." hence, HIPS was founded.

1,000 per year means 30,000 irises later, it's "historic". That's a lot of irises, and HIPS tracks it.

yikes. that's huge numbers to track.

DaLoveRat. Your 1st Niod reminds me of Ravens Quote. I got it on Ebay this year and the beard is so like that one. DG photo shows it muche darker with blue beard.

#44 looks like Azure Apogee (Durrant). Purchased it from Schrieners in the 70's.

Pajaritomt- The lavender one reminds me of one called Lavender Treat that I also purchased on the 70's from Schrieners. Both from there are very nice and bloom well.

Azure Apogee is from the mid-sixties I believe #44 is a more modern variety, #1 could be a lot of different ones I think its may be "Dusky Challenger" but will remain my Noid #1 because there are so many that look like it.
Another shot of Noid 2.

here one of my noid any one have any guesses . its the only pic i have my son delted all my pics hes 3 . he deleted everything my applications and web browser and everything .

the other no ids very fragrant .

Beautiful garden picture, iris28. Your son will go far in politics. LOL!

lol yah maby i should get him a paper shredder for xmas

Can you restore from the recycle bin, or is it too late for that?

i have a mac and i couldnt get into anything i had to re install all the start-up discs . there was a way to get the data back but i clicked the wrong thing and it reinstalled wo retrieving the data

My condolences.

thanks lol my mind blocked it out like a bad dream lol

One of the nice thing’s about our NOID’s is we keep them because we really enjoy them and the nice thing of other people’s noids is trying to fiqure them out! I love Historics, MTB’s & the Median/Dwarfs in general.

DaLove, thank you for starting this - #4- very familiar…but, alas, unknown; 21 & 19 - Wow! ~ 27- Ohhhh, I seem to have it’s cousin w/ an orange beard next to my driveway….will post it; 42- maybe ‘Joyce Terry‘?; 29- ‘Camelot Rose’?

Pajaritomt, your pink No. 3 forces me to consider a few (more) moderns may be nice to have here and there ~ they tend to sneak into my historic beds in the dead of the night!

Mittsy, Sara’s Mailbox Iris may be ‘Susan Bliss’ which grows like a weed… and looks rather pink from a distance… compared to blue.

Oldgardenrose, your white certainly looks & acts like I. florentina: VE bloom, bluer as picture than in the garden, chartreuse lined hafts… and might the little light yellow/white be ‘Flavescens‘?

NickysIris, the red-purple has the markings of Schreiner’s ‘Superstition‘. If your camera tends to add yellow to the shot - this is how it looks.

Scorpioangel - your streaked gray is sooo sweet looking.

Mrs. Ed, your red may be Mme Henri Cayeux (Lent A. Williamson is more blue). If it isn’t MHC, it look a lot like a NOID I used to have which would be interesting - it would mean it was an introduced cultivar for it to be in the mid-west and the north-east. Your opening purple is probably ‘Monsignor’ from the early 1900’s.

Iris28 - ouch about your data - I’ve lost mine… twice. Finally bought a cheap external drive… can’t believe how simple it was to round up my folders, then copy and paste to that drive… On to your Iris - I would bet money that your pink is ‘Melanie’ (Hillson ‘41). It is a tall, big pretty iris that makes a great clump, and survives anything. And if you want any pictures of it, let me know, I have them in all her moods! I really like the yellow in your second picture, so bright and clear in color; and the white/redPurp might be Helen Collingwood - hard to tell from a distance.

Thank you everyone for sharing. Here’s my unknown old purple (26”) with the orange beard. It is a regal-looking iris.

hespiris, thanks for your efforts, but it's not Susan Bliss. Another contender eliminated.

thanks hespiris, I thought the dark might be monsignor, but I listed pioneer and othello as possibilities.

thanks hespiris, id like some pics of melanie . i tried to look it up but i could only find one pic i googled somewhere. and your probably right about helen collingwood . that rings a bell . i was trying to id it but i gave up . that yellow has a fragrance that will knock your socks off .in a good way . you can smell it from the road . i love it ." melanie "was here when we moved in . the iris patch hadnt been divided and was about 5 ft by 2 ft( how long would it take a few iris ,if left undivided to get 5' x2') . so i extended it down the fence . the lady that we bought the house from was in her 80s and she moved in in the 1950s so i cant say when she put them there . the neighbor will know . she told me the roses that were here were 30 years old .