Show us the No-ids you grow

Thank you pajaritomt, your picture sure looks like Sara's Mailbox iris, if you have sufficient quanity to share a rhizome next year I would like to try growing Rheingauperle next to it for verification.

DaLoveRat, your noid #4, could it be Mme. Henri Cayeux? I have a picture from the trader I received mine from and it looks just like it.

I am trying to get a list of bearded iris that mimic Japanese Iris, so if you know of any would you please dmail me. Thanks, Mittsy

Bonjon if your warning had only come a month or so earlier!! ;)

Right now I am falling head over heals for the dwarf irises as well. I just think they are so adorable. Especially the ones that get 6 - 8". Are they not just the sweetest things ever!? I would love to eventually fill the nooks and cranneys of my gardens with them. I just haven't decided on a favorite yet.

No Mittsy my noid 4 is a much light purple almost raspberry in color, I have "Mme. Henri Cayeux" this a photo of it, and MHC has heavy purple based foliage noid 4 doesn't have any.

Winni I don't believe that noid 44 is "Babbling Brooks" it was introduced by Keppel 1966 I think its a much more recent iris but thanks. Another "shot" of it.

mittsy, send me a D-mail in July and I will be delighted to share Rheingauperle with you. I have quite a few rhizomes now and probably will have quite a few more by spring. I would be delighted to share.

there's no hope for finding a favorite, dpoitras, and sticking to it!!

I'm starting to look for the ones with more sweet or more spicy fragrance.

Then I'll just have to love 'em all!! My granddaughter says they're cute-a-ful!!

I had no idea before the iris forum that iris had fragrance!! Thanks guys...now I gotta get some of those!!

I have the Heirloom Iris pallida, also called Sweet Iris, I'll have more available to share next year. I believe it to be the MOST fragrant of all the irises.

parjaritomt, thank you for your kind offer of Rheingapearle, I'll make a note in my tradetracker and contact you in July 2009.

I wish you could dmail or post their fragrance! I try to plant fragrant flowers near windows, door, or my deck so I can enjoy them.

I wish you could dmail or post their fragrance! I try to plant fragrant flowers near windows, door, or my deck so I can enjoy them.

Oh my how did that get posted 3 times!! Sorry guys.

You need one of my lilac runners. They smell wonderful when they bloom and are so lovely in a bouquet. If you are ever going to be in the Syr. area give me a call and we'll dig one up for you.

Need caffeine, forgot to post the picture

hmmmm mittsy, I wouldn't mind taking you up on those offers. never have tried for pallida, and I adore lilacs. That one looks like the old heritage one, too, my favorite. all the newer cultivars sacrifice on the fragrance. they are wonderful.

When my daughter lived in Greensboro (Summerville) I took her lilacs that I dug up from around the parent tree, they were doing really well when they moved back to Florida. They had beautiful Bradford pear trees and wonderful dogwoods. I tried the dogwoods but they don't winter very well here. Lost them after four years. bonjon contact me in the spring and I'll mark some lilacs and iris for you.

thank you! They would be much appreciated. Grew up in Poughkeepsie and lilacs are a very found memory.

WOW, great pic's some of the best one's have no id. DaLoveRat would you be willing to trade?????
I absolutely love #25 I LOVE pink, here is my pink no name that is beautiful

#2 looks like Local color or Witch's wand maybe

Remember the pallida (which has papery spathes instead of green) are diploids. So some of them might bloom earlier than the more modern TBs. Glad to see that someone else has fallen in love with the dwarfs. We are SDB nuts here.

Wow, all of these are beautiful.

I thought #42 might have been Eastertime, but it is not ruffly enough.Close though.

Here is a purple plicata that I have no ID for. It is one of the earliest to bloom.

Here is a NOID that I think might be Mme Henry Cayeau or Lent A. Williamson. I got rhizomes of each this year to grow alongside.

And this old one of course… Kind of a poor picture as it was not completely open.

Mrs_Ed: Is that last pic recent or was it taken in late May? That appears
to be one of the oldies that always catch my eye. The droopy falls and the
erect, incompletely opened standards with the fleshy ribs are typical of
some of the diploids. Does it have any fragrance? Or, is it one of the old
germanicas?

I'd like clarification on the spathes term. Could you show pictures showing the difference?

I know what IrisMA means, but I don't have any pictures. Mittsy, take a look at your pallidas before bloom. The spathes look more like parchment paper.

But maybe someone will have a picture.

Is this just common to pallidas, IrisMA, or to any diploid?

That was taken in May. It has a slight fragrance as I recall, but not nearly as strong as the pallidas. When I was a kid, we only had two types that bloomed. This one and the pallida. I know there was a yellow one (probably honorabile) but it stopped blooming. We're going to try and revive those next year.

Spathes are the temporary covers of the buds before blooming. (had to google it
to be sure). Two pics below--first one look to the upper right and see the tissue
paper spathe. Second one compare the upper left of the same iris buds and lower
right for a different iris. Note the difference although both are old irises. Thanks a
bunch to IrisMA. I learned something very important since I will be looking for this
feature when I assemble my oldies beds.

Mrs_Ed: I will recheck with you next year. Maybe we can work out some trades.

Second pic.

You already gave me some this year! I owe you! I got Pass the wine and Florentina/orris root from you. CAN'T wait to see the orris bloom. Most of my new iris bed is historic. and nearly ALL of it is Dave's garden trades. Some of it is from my grandmother's house.

As far as I know the papery spathes are a pallida trait. I will have to do some looking to double check. the old diploid yellows probarly come from I. variegata. I couldn't get the enlarged view to come up on my computer, but since it is yeloow, I am assuming variegata ancestry. Who knows what the busy bees are up to in the wild.

Those two are the last surviving types my wife had planted on the north
full shade side of the house about 25 years ago. They turned into a mass
of surface rhizomes with hardly any blooms. No surprise there as I learned
years later when I became interested in iris. Planted in full sun, they grow
large and spread rapidly. The blue is really a very pale blue and the yellow
is pale and fades to partially white in the sunlight. My camera has a tendency
to accentuate colors in bright sunlight. I measured the blue this year and
it had flower stalks 45" high. The yellow is considerably shorter.

that yellow is so sweet!

I checked in our book for iris species & pallida is the only one with papery spathes. There may be some partials with a cross between species. Your yellows would be shorter as that color comes from the yellow & red I. variegata which is why irises with that coloration are called variegata. for orgainzing you garden the purples & whites would be the taller ones. From the 1949s on the 'historics' are tetraploid. As you prefer the diploids you might use miniature tall bearded iris for the front of your beds.

oo ooo, i vote for this one.

http://www.hornbakergardens.com/catalog/w/id/2126/c/3/Irises/aachen-elf/details.asp

Aachen Elf is a miniature tall bearded iris about 27" tall.

This is a more realistic pic of the yellow. The reason I am interested in the
older diploids is for the fragrance and hardiness. Even the prettiest rose
may as well be made of crepe paper if it has no fragrance.

Well I just joined HIPS, but I swear, I don't know diploids from haplois from polyploids from ploid-ploids!

Lots of learning to do here!

Mrs ED-- I don't either. My passion are the newer hybrid bearded iris!! LOL !! Just try to look intelligent, they'll never know!! LOL

Plenty of us don't know that stuff. We can look it up if we get into hybridizing, but that's about the only time I know of when you need to know it. Some people are having a lot of fun hybridizing and I won't say that I will never hybridize, but right now, I am having fun building up my collection.

When it came to irises, five years ago I was dumber than a sack full of rocks.
My curiosity got the best of me when I saw mine either died or didn't bloom
most of the time. Some serious reading and paying attention to what was
happening brought me along to the grade of serious amateur. Diploid refers
to irises with two sets of chromosomes. "In the natural world, virtually all plants
and animals are diploid" (Shear). Tetraploids have four sets of chromosomes,
some naturally and others by chemical manipulation. To make it simple so I can
understand it, I relate the 'ploids to math. Two bit binary system has three
combinations. Four bit binary system has 15 combinations. You can see there
are many more possibilities for hybridization with the tets rather than the dips.
I learned from this very forum that crossing a dip with a tet produces a triploid.
Believe it or not, that is a technique used by state fish hatcheries to produce
sterile fish, such as grass carp, which cannot reproduce.

I learned also from this forum that a triploid iris produces sterile seeds and can
not be hybridized further.

My interest in the old dips is from the fact that a variety could last in the wild for
a hundred years or more, fighting diseases and pests, and still look good and
smell like a rose, is worth preserving. I get to admire you folk's really beautiful
irises on the forum so I have the best of both worlds.