Brug S.O.S

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Okay, all you bmt's (brug medical techs)...here is a picture of my baby. Keep in mind it is very young.

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

And here is the poor sad flower pod.

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Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

I don't even have a hint of a flower.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Hmmm..I wonder if there are salt issues?

High Desert, CA(Zone 8a)

Randy,

something to consider in this situation: brugs normally grow above 3,000 ft above sea level. and Marshall Is. is along the sea level area. could be the atmospheric issue? i am more inclined toward changes in weather or temperature affecting the buds.

salt shouldn't be the case here cuz there are salt in the fertilizer we use. in fact we even use epsom salt sometimes. what do u think? ^_^

another consideration is if phosphate, i.e. bone meal was not present on the onset of growing, may be the bud has a bad case of malnutrition?

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Ma vie, as I explained in my d-mail, we don't have temperature changes. Our weather is nearly always the same. The only thing that changes is the amount of rainfall, and I haven't had this guy long enough to be affected by that, if it doesn't rain, I water.

I have no bone meal, but then I'm sure the plants that grow in the wild don't have it either. Now granted, they may grow in a more phospate rich environment, but I do feed it. I'm beginning to think it may be spider mites, as someone suggested on the brug forum. I can't see any on the brug - but have found some on a nearby pachystacus. I sprayed last night, and this am it rained, so we shall see if that has any effect.

Thanks everyone!

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

True MaVie, but she is pretty close to the ocean, and while we may fertilize with salt content, we don't pour it on the buds...I thought originally it might have been overwatered..yes..it can happen.
Spider mite will too... If you have a magnifying glass Shari, that will help. Also, if you feel the back side of the leaves..it will feel gritty...that would be possible spider mites...also, they leave these little wispy cobwebs around too.

My whole place is under attack with powdery mildew..have been counter attacking, and thinning the jungle.

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

My biggest headache is scale. I get it on the hibs on a fairly regular basis. Very frustrating. If I don't keep up with it, I will find whole branches that are solid white. The mites on the pachy were the first I had seen out here, but I am familiar with the little cobwebs from Colorado. Haven't seen them on the Angel, but I sprayed anyway. Would that be why the leaves are somewhat curled. Never having grown one of these before, I just thought that was the way they grew.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes, me too..not far behind powdery mildew is scale...they always seem to appear together.

Desoto, TX(Zone 8a)

So mildew is the disease du jour. It is on my crepe myrtles, which are supposed to be resistant, and the coreopsis. These are in full sun and not crowded---yet.

So Randy, what do you spray?

Christi

High Desert, CA(Zone 8a)

knock on wood, i do not recall ever having such problems. if i noticed something different on leaves, i cut off the leaves and burn them. i am lucky i guess maybe due to foliar spraying at least twice a week, alternating H202 and alcohol. also, i trim off criss crossing branches which allow the plant to properly aerate and sun comes down to the branches below. these are some my own concept to grow plants i have. each one has their own preference/s. as i keep saying, nothing is written in stone, do whatever works for u.

sorry Shari, i do not know what to say about spider mites. here are some link 4 U http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/644868/ , http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/640788/ , http://www.entm.purdue.edu/entomology/research/cs/mg/mg_pdf/MG_insect_slides.pdf may i suggest to spay ur plant with combo of 1 gal. water, 2 tbsp H2O2 and 2 tbsp Palmolive dish washing liquid - the only soap that has viscosity [it makes water wetter, in other words, whatever is attach to something, once wash with Palmolive soap it unclings itself to surface it clings on... the very reason the mfg can claim "Palmolive soap is squeaky clean!" . once insect/s digest the soap, it kills them.

Randy, don't forget when we foliar feed out plants, we spray salt on the plant. have u ever noticed after foliar feeding, once plant is dried, there are white residue. here are a few links for u, http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactSheets/powdery/powdery.htm , http://www.gardenguides.com/pests/tips/powderymildew.asp# , http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3047.html

sorry for responding late, i am more of a night person... who would not be if outside temp is in the upper 110 deg F.


hope they helps,
ma vie

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes I've seen that residue before.
The problem in my garden comes from the proximity and air flow. Just like the real jungles, it becomes full of fungusy stuff.
I've used the palmolive before, which does okay, but must use frequently.
Best success, and by far for preventative which I certainly have fallen behind in, is Seaweed extract. Not only does it provide foliar feeding, but there are properties in there that deter bugs and fungus. Last I checked, scientist had not yet isolated just what it is that does that in the seaweed.

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Randy, do you know of any place that might ship some of that to me? I know it sounds ludicrous, but we really don't have seaweed out here!

High Desert, CA(Zone 8a)

Shari,

i buy dried seaweeds from Oriental stores. soak dried seaweeds in water for 30 mins. blend and liquify in blender. add more water to blended seaweed, water ur plant wit it. may sound like more work but is far less expensive than the commercial fertilizer type.

i like dried seaweeds not only for my plants, it is also nice making salad with tomatoes and shallots. yum. maybe weired to some of u, but i grew up eating seaweeds. it is pack with natural vitamins and minerals.
http://www.itmonline.org/arts/seaweed.htm , http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/y4765e/y4765e0b.htm , http://www.plantea.com/seaweed-kelp.htm

Randy, remember all these info i shared with u way back then? ^_^

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Thank you kindly Ma Vie!

High Desert, CA(Zone 8a)

u're very welcome Shari. i hope u find them. maybe some of ur local friends also know how to fix seaweed salad. it is really good and nutritious both for u and ur plants.

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Thanks Randy. I'm off on a hunt for seaweed! (Utterly amazing, here I am surrounded by the Pacific ocean, and I'm buying seaweed on-line. Go figure!)

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