Lilies: Ok , Who has Lilies spring out of the ground -PART 2

Thanks, I'm learning so much being here with DG's friends around the Globe. I thank you for sharing. Those are beautiful.

Most exciting news on the species front in zone 4!

So far, these "iffies" have made it through their first winter and are now emerging:
Lilium duchartrei
Lilium calosum (Chen Yi)
Lilium nanum(2)(Chen Yi)
Lilium fargesii (Chen Yi)
Lilium sp. (1)(Chen Yi)

Hmmm, My duchartrei hasn't appeared yet. Hoping it isn't mulch...

I had a shock today. I ordered a bunch of asiatics from the coop. Finally got everything planted last week. The first ones to come are the last ones I planted. They are Dolly Madison. I was looking at the bed to see what other perennials to plant in the bed and I noticed some "disturbed dirt". I thought it was an armadillo hole and started to push it back down. And lo and behold there was a lily pushing up through the dirt! It was almost dark, but first thing tomorrow I'll be out there looking for more "disturbed dirt".:) To say I'm excited, is an understatement!

Tehehehe, silverfluter;
I can relate, matter of fact. I don't feel all alone, knowing some one else gets excited as I do to see our lillies grow. I planted some Glory Lily, and waited, and waited but there was no sign of growth while everything else in the garden were setting flower buds. Then one day I found this Glory's bud. I was so happy I could kiss a frog, litterally. lol.
Kim

Hmmm. Well, kiss enough frogs, you'll find a prince.:)

Rick, are all your lilies up now? I still have some I'm waiting on and haven't given up yet. I have one up that I think is L lankongense, however it may be L cernuum. I can't remember where I plopped which. If I recall the cernuum bulb wasn't in the best shape when it went in the ground. It was a little soft when I got it.

While most of my orientals have made a showing, I still have some that are just starting to pop up. So far, it's looking good and it doesn't look like I lost too much over the winter. I haven't see one of the martagons, but it's in a shady location and may be running a bit late. It would be a three year old this year if it makes it, so maybe ready to put out a bloom or two. Terrace City is looking good with two nice stems. I can't remember when I had my first blooms last year, things seem to be running a bit late this year. The Iris aren't even all up yet.

All my lilies in the ground are showing now, except nepalense, lankongense, phillipinense and one accession of michiganense. Lankongense and michiganense are normally late sprouter for me anyway. Nepalense, don't know if it is cold hardy enough. I dug both formosanum and phillipinense last fall to give some back to Clay, who I originally got them from. (He had since lost his.) Because of that and the drenching rain and the deep freeze I had immediately after, I wouldn't be surprised if the phillipinense doesn't make it. Only one formosanum has returned so far. I was expecting a lot more casualties than what I actually have in my gardens in general. I am very pleased with this spring"s survival.

And there was one more Lilium that bloomed last year from Chen Yi that hasn't shown yet. Fargesii (from Chen Yi) didn't even pop up at all last year, and yet here they both are now.

Claude Shride is the first martagon to come up and the tallest, already about 3ft, the tallest of all my lilies right now. I have many species iris as well as a few TB's and MTB's. They are all up. An MTB is blooming now as is Iris suaveolens, and Iris gracilipes alba should be blooming in another several days.

Well the trumpets that I planted 5 or 6 weeks ago are finally showing. None of my species are showing though. Pumilum was already sprouted quite a bit when it came in, and looks pretty weak :*( I was wanting to do some breeding with it. I guess this year may be wishy washy on the hybridizing since a lot of the bulbs are freshly planted.

Good news on the seedling front. The seedlings the rabbits attacked are roaring back to life! One baby bulb had the top half nibbled off and it now has leaves coming out of the bottom :*)

Plantskydd has been on for two nights and no attacks on non fenced lilies! :*) Thank you generous DG'ers. But boy does that stuff wreak, ewww.

Yea!!

lol ~ and try to not get it on your hands........

Moby, have you ever tried the granules? I got a jug of those to put down, just haven't gotten to it yet. My Deer Fortress seems to be working just fine for the bunnies too..

Diann

Nope, haven't seen them.

I'll tell you if it works. I thought the hype on that Plantskydd was that it wasn't supposed to stink or be detectable by humans, just critters...

Diann

What is the shelf life on Plantskydd. The label says use within a few days of opening, but I have so much left.

Ticker the smell goes away in a few hours for humans. At least it has for me.

Trust me on the *stink* aspect of this product. A Plantskydd sprayer exploding in your hands is something you DON"T want to have happen. That's what happened the first time I used it! That stinky gross smelling stuff all over me. I told Iowaron that I now use a spacesuit to apply Plantskydd ;)

Oh no, no........ it's good for the season. I just checked the bottle and it says to store it in a cool, dark place for up to 90 days.

Even if I have left over, I keep it until the next spring to spray tulips and such. It may have lost some effectiveness but it does the job until you get a fresh bottle.

I mix up a gallon at a time and keep it in a closed milk jug. 3 months is about right. Smells like a slaughterhouse when you first spray it on. See what we do to save our lilies?

My Sis in law is backing off deer for the first time from her hostas. She's happy she doesn't have to rush out and re-apply after each rain....

One thing I did learn, well if I would have read the directions first, Plantskydd does kill small leaves if you cover them. Use Two squirts only!

I'm still waiting on some lilies to break ground, and I was wondering if someone could possibly tell me, with all things being equal -- i.e., same light, warmth, water : when should asiatic lilies break ground relative to oriental lilies? I've got some new later blooming asiatics planted very close to some new l. Speciosum Rubrums in a bed that warms up much more slowly in the spring than others in my garden. Elsewhere, new fall planted speciosums are a good 18 inches - 2 feet tall. But in this bed they haven't shown themselves yet. Meanwhile the asiatics that are planted nearby are just an inch or two or three out of the ground and two of those haven't broke yet, so they're lagging too, but the speciosums just seem really late, don't they? Hmmmm I think I've made this a lot more complicated that it needs to be. Point is I'm worried, or I'm impatient. Or both. Many thanks again to you lily experts for all your wisdom. I've been lurking lots. Laura

Laura, when did you plant them. Older 2006 plantings or last fall will come up earlier than 2007 spring's plantings. Mine also come up first out in the sunny areas with the species bulbs usually breaking ground first. My first lilies were the orienpets way out in the yard this year vs the asiatics or species. Some species even "sulk" th first year.

Hi Wandasflowers -- All of these lilies were planted in the fall. Half of the fall planted speciosum rubrums are real big now. And the other half, in the less sunny (for now) bed, haven't made a showing at all. The dozen or so fall-planted asiatics that are next to them have only just broken ground, so I'm wondering if that would indicate that it's too soon to write off the speciosums??? I have lilies popping up everywhere, but the conditions in my small garden vary dramatically from spot to spot, so I don't know at all what the normal progression should be at this point.

This reminds me too much of just before I had my daughter, when I was scouring the pregnancy boards, reading posts by women who were desperate, like me, to be told that their symptoms meant they'd deliver any minute. As if a few days made any difference in the grand scheme of things. Same nervous expectation.

Thanks....







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All the asiatics I planted last spring and fall are showing their little selves, not my orientals. They are still pouting... Orientals I've had for over five or six years are coming up just fine...

OK, I stated this on another thread just a few days ago....

Patience Grasshopper....

Bulbs need time to regrow roots and establish themselves in your garden. Some are set back so far, you may not even see them the first year. This is a typical reaction of orientals that don't have good roots on them when planted. If you have bulbs that are not coming up and they were just planted, I would just mark the spot and wait. If it's been a year, you may want to take a peek to make sure the bulbs are still there. However, that may not be a true indicator either. I had nine dwarf orientals I planted in the summer of 04. They didn't show up in 2005, so I dug looking for them (be very careful, BTW). Could not find them at all. I decided some nasty little rodent ate them. Last summer (06), all of a sudden oriental noses started popping up in that spot. Didn't lose a one and they look great this year too.

thanks again -- Ticker, I feel better hearing that your new orientals are late. I'm hoping it's just that this bed warmed up so late this spring. These are enormous Buggy Crazy bulbs, and, as I said, half of the ones I planted in the fall have put up huge stalks -- double stalks, in fact. But those are in a very warm sunny spot. I was just wondering about the order in which various types of bulbs -- asiatic, oriental -- tend to start breaking ground, partly out of curiosity but , yep, mostly out of impatience. It's always useful to be reminded to be patient.

Wickerparker, just so you really feel better, here is a shot of where my Casa Blanca's should be coming up some time... :)

Oh, but that just makes me sad! Looks like a great spot for them, though. I hope you see those noses very soon, say, tomorrow....

Just an update to say that it seems my impatience is being rewarded. One oriental nose is poking up this morning. Perhaps posting on Daves Garden brings good luck? It definitely brings good advice. Thanks again.

I'm sure that's it! Glad you waited ~ I went poking around one year and snapped the emerging bud right off.

Half of mine are putting on buds .
they took the April freeze much bettter than the Day Lillys which crocked or just lost all the foliage
after last years July and Aug. move to new house
i am amazed i lost more tags ,
then lillies . going to be a lot of " WHO THATS "blooming

Oh you're not supposed to do that when you're weeding? I guess that's why it's dangerous for me to weed at twilight... ;) LOL

All my lilies that should be up, are up now, except Lilium nepalense. Seeing how it did last year, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't show until mid June (if it is alive). I did get some more bulbs at the Friends Sale over Mom's Day weekend. At $2 a bulb, resistance was futile: Triumphator, Red Dutch, and Cocker hybrids Carolyn Marie and 82-141 (variegated foliage).

Beaker, if you want any martagons, relatively cheap, we will have 15 at our Rock Garden Society sale May 19 in Roseville. Probably $5-6 a bulb. They sold for $10 at another place. Lotsa other non-rock garden stuff too, we are definitely not run-of-the-mill.

I have a couple species & Trumpets still sulking that I moved or planted this year. And 4 Pink Perfections (Trumpets) popped up in 2 spots yesterday. I have had Tom Pouce for 2 years and they just popped up for the first time. Who said growing lilies would be easy?

My Crinum Lilly is blooming
not sure i spelled that right .

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Beautiful crinum!

Nice crinum! Thanks for sharing, Taz.

Which one is that Tazzy? It's beautiful.

Dont know if it has a name anoher then Crinum ?

If you posted your pic of the crinum on the Bulb Forum, chances are someone could identify it. We mostly discuss Lilium here.

Breaker-ch ,
sorry i put the picture up to share its beauty with my friends
lily ,crinun, Lily ,Lilium all are bulbs .
they can be called many names they are lovely and fair ,
and i just wanted to share .
Many bulbs are posted on this site, and that is the naked truth.
We have had a broad range of things to bare and share
some not to cuth.

I like that little kitten bulb with the milk mustache you have in your hand. Sweet. ;)