The Dawning of... Part 2...

Arrrrghhhhhh!!!!!

They are the UGO's (aka peas) left in my greenhouse, pre-programmed............to do what?????????

I'll NEVER find them in that green mess!!!!!!

AND my Gloriosoides is in there!

They are indeed UGOs, at least one of which has infected wallaby, as intended. As previously stated, they are preprogrammed to perform dastardly deeds such as converting wallaby to the pirate side. And such a perfect Arrrrghhhhhh!!!!! Well done wallaby, well done! Don't worry about the remaining UGOs; you now know they are there for your own good!

http://www.yarr.org.uk/talk/

Oooo aarrrh, that be soudin likes local dialects in this counry, no many folks speaks posh 'ere yas knows.

Why did I even bother, LOL....

8-Z

44 Seedlings! Fighting the gnats yet. Gonna try some mosquito dunks to kill the babies with BTi. The soil that has gnats is quite a bit wetter than the other tub, but has also germinated faster. So a trade off I guess.

Does anyone know what happens if a bulb or scale is treated with IBA (rooting)hormone?

Do the cats eat bugs? :*)

Cats eat the bugs! Especially the one who can steal a gold tooth from your mouth without you knowing it. Trust me on this.

You posters are so infectious! I had no thought of ever doing this but now I'll be out in the rain collecting seeds from Asiatics, Orientals and JI's. We always grow a basement full of plants but now I'm really addicted. Thanks!

magnolia~

My cat can be so picky sometimes about what she will or won't eat then she goes and eats bugs. LOL.

Robert.

Sorry pirl, you've really gone to the dark side now.......

Robert, isn't that what cats are supposed to do, defy comprehension??

Moby - and you call yourself a friend???????

Oops.... sorry! hee hee hee Lilies do cast some kind of enchantment spell on a person ~

Inscrutable kitties!

I remember looking up some info on Boxelder Bugs last year and basically how they have no natural enemy, they even taste bad to spiders. Then, later watching my rescued feral kitten (finally caught at 12 weeks, yes he was quite a bit feral, the last rescue from this litter of three) eat one and then another. Yuck. Still love him though.

How adorable!

Thanks Pirl. He doesn't look feral there, but he is still very scared when anyone comes over. Still, maybe the Boxelder Bugs are what kept him alive out there last fall and into winter. Perhaps I should market him as a natural pesticide for Boxelder Bugs. Lol!

What a spoilt little baby! They really don't look like feral cats. Bugs are food and yes, while people are always saying feral cats are a danger to wildlife they are also predators to pests.

How does this Gloriowhatsits-philipinnense-poilanei-maybe pod look? Some way to go yet, but seeds are making and the weather is hoding out!

Wow! What a pod!

Oh yes, ferals keep the rabbits , gophers, mice, etc to a minimum. Too bad we didn't have a giant one that would at least scare the deer. The photo is the second day after we trapped the poor thing. After being scared to death, he finally just callapsed and fell asleep for hours. It was -12 degrees F when we got him, so I couldn't help but snuggle him down in flannel sheets.

Oh that little wild one is just precious in thar pic! Awwwwwww!

Miss Teaka (my Siamese) informs me there are rare nutrients in bugs and that is where she gets her super powers so naturally kitties eat them........ ;-)

Robert.

wallaby1~

Looking good! That pod is doing great!

Robert.

Pard, I think Watson has been infected with one of your green gloriowhatsits.......one to go......

Has anyone seen a pod THAT long?

Yes, indeed, he has been infected... A subtle nuance gives it away.... The use of the pirate word "thar"... He probably doesn't even know it.

That is a very long pod. I wonder if it is also supposed to get fat but there is still time for that I think.

I have a special appreciation for all of you folks who rescue the little lost kitties. All of my kitties were either dumped, born feral or just plain showed up at my door and decided to stay.

Pard, the best cats are the ones who pick you :0)

Yep! It just makes me feel sooo wanted!!

Here is my first crop of around 45 seedlings after 3 weeks. My other tub isn't germinating as fast, it is 2 weeks old with only 5 or so seedlings, but I didn't have it as wet.

Looking good. Does your other tub have orienpet seeds? I have a baggie of seeds I planted March 1st and they are just now germinating! A cross for green trumpets.

Just asiatics at the moment. I do have Arena and Chambertain but those didn't have any seeds. Schez was all chaff as was Conca d’Or. Are some orienpets sterile? Also on the Yahoo group a post made it sound like a cross may work oneway but not the other. So lets say YxZ works but ZxY may not. It has been along time since I studied genetics.

Concerning rooting hormone the book "Plants from Test Tubes" makes it sound like using IBA is standard practice for getting bulbils from scales. I think I will try it and see how much faster things form. I just recently bought a low concentration of only .1%.

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Thanks for the IBA info, intecessor. Hope your bulblets grow!

intercessor, you need to consider the ploidy when you do crosses. Higher ploidy pollen parent on equal or lower ploidy pod parent. The standard, normal ploidy is diploid, then there is tetraploid, triploid, polyploid, aneuploid. You can do some research on this. Also, pollen tube length considerations. It has to be long enough, otherwise no fertilization. I have had my highest percentage of success with oriental crosses, perhaps because the ancestry is not as complicated. My lowest percentage of success is with asiatics this year.

Interesting. I was always under the assumption that the pollen fell down the Style! So the pollen stays on top or just barely enters the Stigma and sends a long pollen tube down to the ovary? Amazing considering the length of some of the lily Styles and the number of seeds.
Unfortunately I don't know the chromosome count on my lilies since they are mostly unknown. The once I planted last year anyway. Do you know if there is a way to tell? Maybe I could see in a microscope.

Andrew

This is quite interesting. How would you like to have oriental seeds or bulblets that sprout with no dormancy! http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/GibberellicAcid.htm
I might see if I can get some and give it a try.

Here is a quote from the link below "Treatment of bulblets either with GA[3] 25 ppm for 10 min or their storage at a temperature of 2°C for 45 days were found to be equally effective to overcome vernalization period of bulblets. GA[3] proved to be more effective than the storage of bulblets at low temperature for early sprouting."

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15149888

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Getting fatter...

Looking good there Wallaby. At least yours doesn't frost off, like here in Wisconsin.

Very nice. Getting fatter, yet it is still keeping its nubs on top, unlike formosanum.

The strange thing is the other 3 had yellow pollen, which is what formosanum is supposed to have. This one had brown pollen, as philipinnense should have, but the red colouring on the outside of the petals isn't supposed to be typical.

The next two have pods which look like this one, but I don't think they will have time to mature. The third plant looks to be browning on the leaves, but #2 is still very fresh and the pod is nearly vertical.

That pic was taken yesterday, I think today it looks even more mature, it seems to be paling.

According to the efloras site they are similar, with philippinense having a longer, narrower floral tube.

"Lilium philippinense Baker (Philippine lily; Philippines) is similar to L. formosanum but with a thinner, longer floral tube. The delicately fragrant flower is white, occasionally streaked with green and red basally, and is the largest in the genus; the perianth parts are 18–25 cm and basally papillose. It is reported from one location in Kentucky (E. T. Browne Jr. and R. Athey 1992) and is becoming well established in parts of Florida, especially near Tallahassee. "

That sounds right!

hohum, I searched for 'Lilium philippinense stigma colour', got 9 results with our 2 threads at the top!

http://aolsearch.aol.co.uk/web?query=%27lilium+philippinense+stigma+colour%27&isinit=true&restrict=wholeweb&x=39&y=9

We had some frost, Wed. night to 0C in the greenhouse, so more outside but nothing was damaged. Thursday night it crept in from somewhere silently and did all my dahlias. -2C in grh, the lily pod is stood amongst dead dahlias looking fine!

Hooray!

Hi,
I was wondering what to expect for leaf count at the end of the first growing season for Asiatic seedlings?

Andrew

My goodness! popping into this thread is like dropping down the rabbit hole....