L@@K What I Found . . .

berrygirl - your photos are interesting for 2 distinct reasons as your photos are the only ones so far in this thread that show Ipomoea pandurata including

1) the sepals to have a purplish-red pigmentation on the sepals...cyano-pigmentation is often a partial defence against herbivores...

2) large ants on the sepals...Ipomoea pandurata is one of the MG's that have what is known as extra-floral nectaries(EFN) on the sepals...these type of nectaries are produced on plant parts outside of the more usual floral nectaries inside of the flower...the EFN's are most often visited by pugnacious ants and other Hymenoptera that feed on the nectar produced and have been documented to repel herbivorious insects,although this type of protection from herbivores is not completly effective,the plants equiped with EFN's are better protected that if they didn't have EFN's...hummingbirds have been photographed feeding on the EFN's of Ipomoea carnea which has the most developed EFN's of any MG species...

Emma - Robert mentioned having better success with focusing on closeups by using a manual focus here
"''The old Mavica came through for me. All it took was putting on my reading glasses and switching to to manual focus. (I'd rather look thru a viewfinder focusing....)"

You may want to try his method"...

Generally speaking,considering that the species epithet is 'pandurata',one would think that true pandurate leaves would be more common(!?)...

Ipomoea pandurata showing somewhat pandurate/fiddle shaped leaves
http://www.duc.auburn.edu/~deancar/wfnotes/wdpot.htm
http://wildflowers.jdcc.edu/Wild%20Potato8.html

Larkie - it looks like your plant is producing some almost fiddle shaped leaves in your photo here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=2455021
Can you get any closeups of those 'pandurate' leaves(?)...


Fiddle or 'nose' shaped leaves as presenting on an Ipomoea nil
http://www.exot-nutz-zier.de/images/prod_images/Ipomoea_nil_Hisagoba2.jpg

Ipomoea pandurata seeds photo link
http://muextension.missouri.edu/explore/images/ipm1023bigrootmorningglory.jpg

The following link mentions the rare Morning Glory Bee Cemolobus ipomoea a rare species of Bee that has been found only on Ipomoea pandurata and some other Convolvulaceae species
Cemolobus ipomoea Rb. was found only on Ipomoea pandurata by Robertson, on which he listed it as abundant; he speculated that it was an oligolege...collected this bee only on that plant. Any sampling effort ignoring this plant would most likely miss this bee. .Today, this species is generally considered rare (Michener et al. 1994:156).
http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/savanna/plants/ws_potato.htm


TTY,...

Ron




This message was edited Jul 2, 2006 6:19 PM

So far, the "pods" are yellowing and dropping. :-(((

I'll keep watching for good ones.

Is this vine known to be a poor seeder?

Robert.

Robert - The degree of plant intra-infertility/fertility and inter-infertility/fertility in Ipomoea pandurata is directly related to the degree of genetic diversity present in the plants...Ipomoea pandurata plants that have greater diversity in the genetics have alot higher intra and inter plant fertilty...

So,Ipomoea pandurata can be a very prolific seeder or a very poor seeder based on the genetic diversity of the individual or groups of individuals in question...

The remedy for low genetic diversity is to increase(!) the genetic diversity of the pollen available by planting new plants, that originated from other areas, amongst your group ...and as long as the new plants are not too(!) closely related,the proteins displayed on the pollen will be different enough to increase the seed production...

TTY,...

Ron

This message was edited Jul 7, 2006 8:42 PM

Ron~

I've been watching all the other vines for signs of blooming, but none seem to be near that point. I looked at the roadside where the county clearcut for the larger vines that were there, but I couldn't see any amongst the adventitious "weeds" that have sprung up mightily in the bare ground.

Here's a lovely bug that I think is the one responsible for the holes in the pandurata leaves.

Well, I just had to post to this thread that I searched out....I also want to find some pandurata seed and hope to remember this year. It's very prolific here in NE Oklahoma...there have to be seeding populations.
Here, it grows in more moisture retentive areas...because we're much drier than you folks out east.
I also have leptophylla seedlings...that's are now 4 years old...I'm thinking next year is the year they bloom (they're over a foot high this year).

Bumping the Thread....

. . . berrygirl, did you ever have luck getting seeds from those awesome blooms?

Emma

EmmaGrace~

My 2-cents:

I didn't get a single seed set on mine despite my efforts to pollinate them using pollen from different plants. Will have to get some from further away in hopes that they aren't too closely related.

Wonder if we could all exchange pollens this summer? It might help.

Robert.

That must be fun to find them growing wild!

Robert, sounds like a great idea to me,
and Yes, Beth - these are really Gorgeous Blooming Vines.

Emma

Emma,
No I didn't. I waited too long and the highway crew came by and bushogged them all down. But no fear- hopefully the will be back as I've saw them in that same place for several yrs now.

Oh, too bad berrygirl - hopefully you will have luck getting seeds this year.
Thanks,
Emma

berrygirl - You can take cuttings from the plants >root them and plant them in a different spot that will allow them to produce mature seedpods...

TTY,...

Ron

Joseph,

I will be happy to send you some of my seeds.
I am thinking this MG will be hardy for you.

Emma

Here are some of my blooms from this morning

This message was edited Aug 20, 2009 11:14 PM

Emma - reference your digging up tubers http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/616723/ taking tubers from the wild can be illegal and members could be in trouble L@@K here

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1029552/

Motorists should not dig up clumps of flowers or drive over them so that others can enjoy them also.

TTY...

Ray


This message was edited Aug 20, 2009 7:36 PM

This message was edited Aug 20, 2009 7:44 PM

Emma, those are beautiful... I wish I could have gotten some when I was out in the country with Bonnie. Please save me some seeds or a tuber, I will be glad to buy them, since Jackies are few and far in between. I don't worry too much about the legalities of things, I am a gardener.....

Hi Debra,

I will be happy to share some of my seeds with you and will send them to you when I send Jackies which will be within a week or so. I am out the door in a few minutes headed to Houston for a week.

Emma

Debra, where did the I. pandurata seeds originate that you sent me?

Rex, From Burlingame, Kansas across from the burlingame river along a long pasture fence line.. usa they are native I.Panduratas..I found them the year before last, and then went back again this past fall to gather seeds..
Since then I have sent them out everywhere..