Open Discussion of Lily Mosaic Virus/Tulip Breaking Virus

inanda, I'm not understanding. Are you saying that the photo is already on your PC and you want to use picasa to find it? I think it's the "When I click browse" part I'm having trouble with. I'd be happy to help you get the photo posted. Can you give me/us a little more info on the problem? Thanks : )

Ginny ~ click Browse, when that box is up;
of the icons on the far left click 'My Computer'
you should see a list of of storage places click 'Local Drive C'
there will be many things listed, click on 'Program Files'
scroll through the alphabecial list to 'Picasa' ~ you should be able to find your pic from there. Good luck!

ok, you guys must be using a different version of Windows. I don't have a "Browse". I'm using XP Professional 5.1, sp2. Based on Moby's instructions, It looks like my "start" is your "Browse". So, that's why I couldn't figure out what Inanda was asking. : )

If you want to upload a pic to DG is says "start"??

Oh, THAT "Browse"! Oops! My Bad. I was SO confused. : )

Thanks for explaining. I know how to USE the computer, but apparently I don't know how to EXPLAIN it. : )

Whew! LOL

Well, there may be life after TBV after all. I pulled up all of the lilies near/around the effected ones. Not sure. They may actually have all been the same variety, including "babies".

Now I have a number of lies blooming around the garden. So far all look healthy. Here's a pick http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/607055/ of one I'm trying to get ID'd. So far she's nameless, but I think she looks normal.

Here is a pic of a selection of Harlequin strain that I purchased last fall and opened up virused. Notice the arrow pointing to the rather insignificant splotch.

But here is what the second bloom looked like, clinching the diagnosis:-( I have saved pollen from it.

Rats! How depressing......

This is my find for the year :(

Moby, waaah! I shovel pruned a few orientals that had the mosaic virus in the foliage.

I just got in on the Messenger Coop. I wonder if it will help prevent the virus. Supposedly, it makes plants more resistant to damage from pests and fungal type infections.

I am thinking of trying it but haven't decided yet. I'm kinda used to disease around here and it would be strange not to have it.

I was also talking to a friend who said he uses Bonide every 2 weeks. He hasn't had any virused lilies yet this year and he only had 2 of those curved blooms out of about 400 plants. I had a least a dozen or more of those. Evidently, Bonide is a spray that is used on fruit trees and it is for both fungal and insects. I guess he's been using this stuff for a number of years and never really has any problems with his lilies.

In general, I don't think curved buds are strictly a symptom of virus. I always have a number of these buggers. When I look at the situation, it just looks like one section of the bud is growing faster than the rest of it. Or is it that one section is growing slower than the rest? Botrytis is a big problem here. Every spring as things get going we get a good hail storm, then botrytis sets in on the damaged spots. I tried a sulfur spray this year and it seemed to help.

I've started using a copper soultion as I always have some fungal spot on lily of the valley, some roses, downy mildew on lilacs and monarda, and a couple of lilies with botrytis. Having good control so far this year.

In a friend's garden. What do you reckon? It doesn't savour well with me.
K. James

Are other buds opening the same way?

With the same variegation to lesser degrees.

Sadly, I think it looks like the virus. : (

Rogue it. Tout suite.
inanda - happily picking peas/lettuce/beet leaves

Sorry, I have to agree....

So if a lily had the virus would every bloom show the color blasting. I have a few lilies that look suspicious, but not all the blooms are showing the symptoms.

Can you post a picture? If you have a few that look suspicious I would be concerned. The splotching is randomly placed and is most prominant on pink and red lilies.

I will confirm it to my friend and tell her to rogue it. At least it is a fairly small Orienpet- onyl 5' or so.

mvespa, are you having differing blooms on the same stem or in the clump? My lilies showing virus were 2 stems on the exterior of the clump ~ those were destroyed and the healthy looking ones segregated far from all lilies.

Look on the far right for the virused bloom.

Mary,

Go look at that clump again. I'd get rid of the whole clump or let one got to seed and then start again with the seed..
Ginny who has some she is wondering about too.

I have different lily blooms on the same stem - some showing virus, some not that I can tell. I am having a really hard time discerning. Some petals on a bloom look will look splotched, but not all the blooms on the stem.

mvespa, see my two posts dated June 23. They show how the first bloom opened with very little sign of virus and the second bloom defintely virused. From what I can tell, virus can have varying density throughout the plant, showing symptoms accordingly. But before you ditch the plant, consider other possibilities such as petals being scraped, insect damage, herbicide damage etc.

Do you think that herbicide damage could cause the streaking? I will take pics and post. I am very nervous about it and am very hesitant to rip them out.
I also forgot to mention that I have a few orange tiger lilies in one of the gardens along with the Gran Paradiso's that are showing the blotching. I am going to rip them out as soon as they are done blooming since I know they are carriers of viruses. I have had them in the garden for a few years though and no problems until this year.

I'm new here, not to Dave's, but new to lilies this year, and this may be a silly question but here goes....

What does this virus do if just left alone? Will it kill the plant? Can it move to other plants like Daylilies and Iris? Will it kill those?

I bought a lily last week at the farmer's market here in town, and the blooms show that it is obviously virused~I know that now, not when I bought the plant~should I take it back to the lady and tell her that this is a virus and it will effect all of her plants...?

There are no silly questions, mate. Silly is not asking questions.

It is most ethical to alert her. If she knew that and sold it to you, I suggest you stick your rongue out at her and squint your eyes.
Let us see what the experts say happens to the plant if it is not culled...

I have done a bit of reading on this and from what I can find, the virus is spread through sucking insects, like aphids. I was concerned that it could spread through the soil and thus a whole bed could be compromised. I don't think this is the case. In years past I had employed vigorous chemical insecticide programs and therefore the aphids were kept at bay. This year, I decided to go organic, and well although better for the environment, not better at controling pests. After giving it a bit more thought, I think this may be why I am noticing a few infected plants this year.

I'm not aware of any plants that cannot be infected with a mosaic virus. If you don't remove and destoy infected plants, you're probably going to see all sorts of odd growth and I believe in the end, plants will weaken and eventually die. If you have this in your garden, as heartbreaking as it is, you need to take care of the problem. Not only for yourself, but for your neighbors as well.

I have noticed brown areas on my tiger(?) lilies. The buds have formed, but not bloomed yet. Is this mosaic virus? Thanks!

Found these brown areas on my tiger (?) lily and wonder if it is mosaic virus? Thanks!

Sorry for the duplicate message. I think my send finger stuttered! Anyway, another pic, closer up.

Virus doesn't cause brown / dead spots but I don't know what the probem is with yours. I'm sure others will be along with some ideas.

Well that's good news! Thanks! I suspect that it is either bruising or some sort of sun scorch. It has been plenty hot already this summer!

Leaf spot, botrytis. Get spraying with Baking Powder or baking soda. I spreads like cerazy
Inanda