I would concur about the blind stalks being the most likely to have bulbils. The L. leichtlinii that had them last year had flowers this year and no bulbils.
No luck finding the correspondence but it said, as I recall, just what is being said here that (some?), stems without flowers are more likely to produce bulbils than stems with flowers.
David
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Who has bulbils?
On L. leichtlinii and L. leichtlinii maximowiczii:
There was a long thread on the subject, (with offshoots into taxonomy), in the Yahoo Lilium group recently. Beginning on June 25 I believe.
David
Yellow Electric has bulbils this year...
'Cheryl Ann' has bulbils this year. I hadn't recalled that from other years. So maybe the "sometimes" category would work.
Pard, can you be more specific? Did Yellow Electric have bulbils all the other years too?
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Yes, I've been following the yahoo lilium group. No significant discussion of bulbils that I remember, unless I missed it.
Actually since the yellow form of leichtlinii seems never to occur outside those few islands in Japan, I am inclined to think it may be a true variety. Even notwithstanding your pics, plantsrok, it seems other characteristics gleaned from other sources are different too. But I have to agree that mostly, color is not enough for a varietal differentiation.
Rick
Since I didn't mention it earlier in this thread I'll so no. I do recall going out and checking all of my lilies last year...
Interesting... Firetruck has not a single bulbil for me this year. It does have a huge healthy stalk and bloomed it's head off, just very recently finishing up.
Does that mean Firetruck should be a "sometimes" producing bulbils, or should I make a new category - "most of the time"?
Rick
In reviewing this thread I see that susybell reported that her Firetruck did not have bulbils. Perhaps "sometimes" would be appropriate.
I noted another lily with little bulbils in the upper axils today but will have to check on the name tomorrow and report back.
It was Tropical Dream having the bulbils. First time I've noticed them.
Thanks, Moby.
I was just thinking that it's about time to resurrect this thread...
Last summer, at my grandmother's cottage, (where L. lancifoilium were planted in the 1930's or 40's, the lilies that 1st sparked my interest), I noticed three plants in a row, next to the path down to the lake. I am VERY curious to see this summer whether or not they will bloom as L. lancifolium flaviflorum, I put several bulbils in that area a few years ago. If they bloom yellow they will be the first known-for-sure plant from bulbils for me, (although I suspect some of the propagation in my garden may be due to them as well).
I saw fewer bulbils last summer, except on the lancifoliums of course.
Anyone have any thoughts on the effects of this very mild wet winter on lilies? I know the effect will very greatly with different species, I only hope some of them like it.
Rick, I don't know now why I got so fired up that one day long ago, Must have been having a bad day. Sorry.
David
If bulbils are the baby bulbs that surround the main bulb ,then my Asiatics have them. Even OT Shocking.
Bulbils are on the stem, Jo. You'll see them in pictures above at the leaf axils.
Jo, check my pic 3 posts above yours.
Thanks ladies.I have several of Lisas lilies that do that.
You got some good looking bulbils there, Moby.
That Indian Brave sure makes some good ones. I don't think I've ever seen bulbils with so many scales.
Oh guys, not to change the subject, but speaking of lilies, I'm afraid I won't be planting any more, and will probably be digging up a bunch of them in the spring, as the lily beetles were really terrible this year, and I had a hard time keeping them under control. Less lilies, less lily beetles and inspections and beetle massacres to deal with. I sure hope they won't be traveling to your areas, or you'll see what I mean.
So sorry to hear it. I'm praying the lily beetles all die.
So am I, pirl! I've had them for several years, but was always able to get most of them before it became a big problem - that is, until this past year. This year (2011) I saw them crawling up out of the ground (never saw that before) in April and it was a huge battle until fall.
That would dampen the dreams of any lily lover, I'm sure. It's not fun when nature seems to work against us and our plans.
The Bayer drench didn't work?
I also use Sevin to drench as soon as the lilies peek out of the soil.No beetles here.I also spray duering the season while they are starting to bloom.
Sorry about your crop.
I haven't tried bayer or sevin. I try to keep away from the really toxic pesticides, though I've been using neem oil to some extent. Mostly I knock the beetles into a jar and drown them, and pick off any leaves that have larvae deposits and drown them too. It worked pretty well until recently.
Thanks for the sympathy, ge.
I bought the Bayer but haven't used it. I wanted it "just in case" the lily beetles cross Long Island Sound.
I have used pesticides for years and still have bees,butterflies,birds,spiders ,you name it. Ihave noticed an absence of fireflies all over the country but thats from the univeasla use of lawn chemicals.
Bayer products all have imidiclopris ( sp) it attacts soft skinned insects ie larve. It is necessary to drench when the beetle is in the larve stage.Early spring, just as the lilies break ground.
It is a product that is also used for bearded iris.
My bulbils did not appear until about a month after the blooms went. I am watching to see if they grow larger. They were on the asiatic "cocktail twins," and I'm hoping they will be good growers. They were very pretty reddish orange lilies.
Marcia
I just noticed this thread.Hi,I have a question,I have grown lilies for years,but paid no attention to where I planted them.Then this year,where I had 'Pink Perfection' trumpet several years ago,these 5' gangly weeds showed up.I thought that they looked lily-ish,but no bulb underground.Could that have been a spent seed,or bulbil?
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