(and waving) LOL
Time to start the ugly thread!
I've had a few mottled blooms, but i figured it was from water getting on the flowers. We have very "hard" water here.
I was telling pirl, (my "mentoress") that I spent an entire day re-doing sprinkler heads to the flat horizontal spray types...that seems to have helped enormously...keeping water off the blooms seemed to make a huge difference, even though I never water overhead. The new heads don't get any water on the buds or the flowers.
I did a little experiment and picked one Russian Raphsody bloom and put it in a glass of water. Then I put ONE drop of water on a petal and 30 minutes later, there was a white spot...like I had put bleach on it.
Just wondering if anyone else experiences the spotting/bleaching problem.
I notice the spotting especially on the dark red and purple blooms and especially after it has rained. I hand water everything and try to avoid getting the buds wet if I can.
A few years ago I watched as every other day as Becky Lynn's blooms looked eaten and I blamed the earwigs. It was the watering system. I changed to misting heads instead of jet streams (or whatever they're called) and now I don't have the problem. I'm not about to do it to the entire property but it's good to know what causes the spotting. Just changing the time the zones go on for where daylilies are planted would go a long way to preventing the spotting problem.
Thanks for the test, JD! You did good!
We have a lot of chlorine in our water so I am sure it causes spotting.
Marea...I had that exact same one...I bought it at Lowes, where it was packaged as "Ribbon Candy", complete with a glossy photo showing it to be brilliant pink and white.
Try Clorox.
I have never seen a daylily this ugly. It is a 2005 seedling cross of Alice Lambertson X Destined to See. I have 6 plants and this was the only ugly one. It rained this AM plus this is FFO. You may notice that even the eye on "Destined to See", has cataract spots. Just can't wait to see how beautiful the next bloom is. LOL
Ok ~ I'm naming mine "Howdy Lowe's Clorox Dawn' LOL
se-eds ~ trade ya!
se_eds-
that looks like it has potential, actually!
You people crack me up. I have had 3- count em three- blooms so far this year. None of them on scapes over 6" high, and one was only about 2" high yesterday...none qualify for this thread, though, but I'll post in another. Keep the uglies coming! (a thread like this was slammed over you-know-where, so never got to see any uglies).
birdsnblooms - I thought it was so ugly I'd keep it to laugh at when I went by. Ordinarily I just cut them out of the ground.
Looks like it needs an extra dab of doo. Janet!
HAH. Thats a hoot Don
Per chance did anyone ever see that old Todd Brown movie from the 1930's called 'Freaks'? (It was banned from the U.S. for many, many years.) Anyway, that's what some of these "uglies" remind me of. LOL!!!
I have many Yabba Dadda Doo seedlings and most are very badly splotched,streaked on their first blooms. These are mostly on 2006 ( 1 yr. old seedlings) but they do clear up.
Also had a series of seedling crosses last year like Blue Eyed Curls X Jolly Red Giant that were double ugly to start out. Did not photo them this year as I am looking at plant form on this yr to see if I want to save 1.
Either too much or not enough passion!
Looks like she needs to turn off the red light for awhile and get some rest! LOL!!!
Funny!
OK...stupid question here from a newbie hemhead:
The "entries" in this thread...are the ALWAYS "ugly", or are they just considered such at this particular time of year? (Be it due to weather, insect damage, "newness" of the plant, or whatever...???) .
If they have the label of "ugly", do you all give them another chance or yank them out, or are some of them just consistently "ugly" ?
Just wondering...
And I have a question about the 'uglies' too. I have just started with daylilies the past year or so. A lot of the dayliles I have bought on sales here as 2 fans. So they were, of course, small. For some of mine this is the first year to bloom. Is it normal to see quite a few 'uglies' on these newer plants since they are so young? How long does it take for them to 'kick in' and get with the program? How long before you get a clump out of these newbies, on average? I know they all increase at different rates. But what would be a good rule of thumb for average clump size?
Thanks,
Sherry
JasperDale: No, the entries on this thread are usually quite beautiful. We just have fun showing each other our "uglies" (I think it keeps us 'humble' LOL!) You just never know what nature is going to throw you.
Sherrygirl: When you order double fans, if at all possible, try to get 'blooming size' doubles as a good start. Depending on the rate of increase, I would say that 3 years is the average time to form a clump. And, yes, oftentimes the first few blooms (FFO) are pretty 'warped' (and pretty funny for this particular thread)
I've noticed a few daylilies seem more prone to having a few uglies than others. Art Gallery Deco is one of those. It did shape up for me last year and gave me some very nice blooms after the first ones. Other daylilies like Bill Norris and America's Most Wanted have never given me anything but perfect blooms. I have never had a registered one that I've gotten rid of because of uglies. I have gotten rid of a few seedlings that I decided there was just no hope for.
I agree with Sybiltwo and Lincolnitess. The grand opening is often a flop but probably not with that many cultivars. 'Silver Potentate' and 'Madonna's Smile' have consistently been "like ugly on an ape" for the many years I've had them.
Sherrygirl - Once again Sybiltwo is right: three years would be average. For the clumps that have given us over 1,000 flowers a season it can be five years or more but they do stop traffic.
Yep.. Part of the reason we label blooms FFO (first flower open) is because we are excited but also because sometimes they aren't quite what they are supposed to be.. sometimes a cool morning will mess up a blooms opening..sometimes bugs or water will mar the bloom. They usually shape up after a while.. I have given one plant up to three years to get it's act together. Your patience depends on how much room you have
You're right, Jazz. It also depends on placement. Those who have our "prime real estate" spots have to perform or they go to more secluded areas, then to the dump.
Jasper/Sherry: for reference, I nearly yanked out Lavender Illusion its first two years. As far as I was concerned, its name was "Lavender Splotch." Coloring was very much like the posts above of Yabba Dabba Doo, and Chicago Two Bits. She finally shaped up in year 3 (last year). Here she is with Brocaded Gown last season:
argh..I still haven't been able to compost a daylily but I would definately try to find a new home for it
Oh defiantely a keeper blooms!
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I just give them away, Jazz. Some people couldn't care less about names and just want that "splash of color" - I do hate that phrase.
lol..that's cause they are your babies..
I couldn't compost them, either...I either trade them away, or I have a spot in the yard that I dump things I'm either not sure of, Winter Sown containers that didn't germinate, or ditch lilies. Someday, I anticipate the area will be a nice little wild-flower space. For now, though, it can use the 'fill,' so EVERYTHING goes over there...rocks, weeds, dirt, leaves, etc. Other than the rocks, it's pretty much just a cold compost heap. That works, too.
I couldn't compost daylily either! I would surely give it away first!
birdsnblooms, I had Lavender Illusion in the North and always loved the flower, Very nice picture of the one you posted!
.........and some that aren't my babies, Jazz. Some, from big growers, are not at all what they were portrayed to be and simply have to leave the property so I don't dwell on it.