From Gaylord Palms: Ids...

Can anyone ID these palms from Gaylord in orlando. I collected some seeds from the first one...

Another...

yet another...

same as above...

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cyrtostachys renda

chambeyronia macrocarpa

I'm guessing the first one is a Pinnanga kuhli, and the 3rd/4th image is a Ptychosperma caryotoids. I don't know my spiny palms well enough to guess on the second one. Number 5 looks like an Archontophoenix of some kind, but I'll let the other guys figure it out.

This message was edited Jan 24, 2007 11:51 AM

are you sure thats a carytoides? the leaflets are more like a wodyetia than the ones I've seen on a carytoides

another photo of the spiny palm

I think its a verschaffeltia splendida, based on the root system

Check out this link. If not this I bet palmbob knows. I'm probrably wrong about Pinanga also. I just enjoy guessing.

http://www.plantapalm.com/vpe/photos/Species/ptychosperma_caryotoides.htm

The plumose leaves are a bit unusual in your photo. Not a wodyetia crownshaft.

This message was edited Jan 24, 2007 2:52 PM

Not sure what photos go together... very unclear. But the middle photo of the palm with stilt roots looks like a Socratea, but could, I suppose, be an Iriartea. Or maybe something else.

Sorry for the confusion. Only the 3rd and 4th images go together, also the splendida is the 2nd and last two photos.

I would say, based on the spiny roots, length of the crownshaft, and foxtail-like fronds, that the 3rd and 4th are a socratea.

The spiny stilter looks to be a shaded out Verschafelttia that never sees wind. These exhibit little color. Same goes for the indoor Socratea - they put out much more blue in a natural habitat. Excellent palms though!

if you think that palm is a Socratea, which I do, too, why did you enter it in the Plantfiles as Ptychosperma caryotoides?

Fixed!

I just looked up Socratea in the Plantfiles. What a crazy palm! When I ID'd the photo, Ptychosperma caryotoids was the closest visual I could connect. It's aerial root looked strange, but my Pacaya palm has ones almost that odd.

Was their a final pronouncement on the first image, the one I called a Pinnaga kuhli? It was the one that seeds were collected from. (knowing I ID'd one correctly would boost my fragile ego a bit)

I'd say that was a good guess, though I prefer the name P coronata (same thing)

Thanks for all your help guys

the first one actaully looks like Areca trianda to me.

Alan

leaves too wide and crownshaft wrong color for A triandra, not to mention the inflorescence looks exactly like Pinanga coronata... so I will stay with the first guess