Happy Birthday, PajaritoMt!

Best wishes to our culinary friend, Betty.
May there be many more years, and may this trip to DBG add on at least two.
Kenton

Absolutely! Happy Birthday to YOU!!

jo/nm

Happy Birthday to you. Didnt have any roses but I thought of you and those nice bulbs at DBG.

Lillyz

Thank you all. Would that be a Nelly Moser clematis, JamesCo? Whatever it is, it is stunning. And the same is true for that magnificent flower that you sent jio1, What is it? And the perky daffodills were perfect for the occasion, Lillyz. This has been a great birthday and you have all contributed. It is so nice to get flowers for your birthday!

No, JamesCo, that is not a Nelly Moser. I think it is something related but more exotic. Lovely.

Happy Happy!

Thanks, all of you! Betty

Yikes.. a day late, but the birthday wishes are there! Happy Birthday!

Still her birthday in Australia, right?

Happy B-day. Peace be with you. (Peace Rose)

Happy belated Birthday!

Thanks, all! I had a wonderful birthday and you all and your magnificent flower pictures definitely contributed. And Peace is still my favorite rose. Thanks again.
Betty

Happy Birthday Betty. My computer and or DG has not been working right the past couple of days. I took a dear friend and his wife out this morning for breakfast to celebrate his 94th birthday. Hope you can celebrate a great many more B=days.

Here is a photo of my Ronald Reagan rose, planted this spring. It is a self rooted type.

Donna

Well DG still isn't working right, wouldn't post my photo of rose. Donna

Those of us who travel cannot keep up with the important things in life. Like a person who wants to turn a desert into a forest. Only She can know the value she has to the world we live in. Happy Birthday! PJ

Thanks rutholive and Sof,
Your kind thoughts are much appreciated and DG is forgiven for its struggles to master electrons, a tricky bunch!
Betty

I learned today that an electron is made up of 3 quarks, one up, one down and one variable. And more importantly I learned that a quark is made up of a vibrating string. Its frequency..........

Sure glad you explained about quarks and electrons so clearly. hahaha As you can guess I know nothing about electrons!!!!!!!

String theory is fascinating how a bunch of scientists are desperate to discover the TOE "theory of everything". They have invented more life "truths" than a Dune Novel

You are right there, Sof. I know a thing or two about electrons and computers, but I leave the quarks and other wierd particles to my husband and his friends whose work involves that stuff. They write software to count those little particles.
I, on the other hand, am glad someone is keeping up with that stuff so I can dig holes in the ground and put plants in them. My late summer orders are coming in and I am trying to get them planted. I need an entire army of slaves to cope with what I have purchased. But I am an army of one, alas. My lilies of the vally arrived today, and another box of irises, too. I also picked up a Baby Blue Marine Iris at the farmers market today, along with melons and pears. Alas, I have no resistance to beautiful fruits and veggies.
Alas most of the farmers told me they would not be back next week. it is true that "Winter is icummin in.".

I am now discovering a group of building blocks called: Membranes, 2brains, 3brains and my favorite is pbrains. All of these are smaller than 1 billionth of an electron in size. Now who is creating such issues of wishful thinking just to make the math fudge to fit the desires of the physicyst. 11 dementions. You got to be creative to make this one work. LOL

Sof,
These particle physicists and mathematicians are very creative and more than a little wierd. Here in Los Alamos, we are all very aware of the wierdness of the people we live around. It is all summed up in the phrase, "That's Los Alamos."
Did you get a chance to see the play or movie "Proof"? It touches on this and is very fun, as well. Remember the Russian mathematician who recently won a bunch of awards including the million dollar Field Award? No one could find him. Eventually he surfacted, turned the awards down and disappeared.
Are these people happy? I think they would be unhappy if they didn't do what they are doing.
We had a conference here a year or so ago about the space elevator, i.e. an elevator made out of nanotubes which one could just ride to a space platform. They were serious. The space station would have to rotate with the earth. Arthur C. Clarke attended by video hook up.
You are into interesting stuff, but it is way out there.
But imagine how people felt when Einstein told them that space was curved! Plenty of us are still struggling with this nearly 100 year old concept.

Yes but now the space time curve is supposed to be the cause of the spiral galaxies. I don't know all of that one yet but it is facinating to get into the minds of these cosmologists.

My dad is/was a mathematician & physicist. I knew more about sunspots than I did about crayolas when I went to 1st grade.

yes, I am still a freak.

Greenjay,
There are worse things than being a science freak. We could use a few more in our country. You can always learn about crayolas, but sunspots aren't necessarily so easy to learn about.
I would like to see more geek-freaks in the US.
Keep on digging Sof,
Your reading will be great in the coming long winter nights and will give you plenty to think about as you split and stack all that wood. You could do worse than thinking about math and physics as you stare at your fire in the living room. That way you won't be quite so shocked when these things start to influence our daily lives.

start?

greenjay,
You are right. They have always influenced our daily lives. We are only just starting to realize it. Science boils down to the operating rules of the universe. Kind of gives you a chill, doesn't it.
Betty

see, that's why I am such a freak. 10 years in academia, doctorate in comparative studies, and I keep coming back to science over and over again because it is my comfort zone. Poetry gives me chills (in a good way!). History shakes my soul. Science makes me calm and cool and safe.

modern scientists might be surprised how many of their new "discoveries" were written down in ancient texts that are thousands of years old.

not.going. there.

no worries. archaeology can be difficult to digest at times.

OK being a man I use my left and right brain. When I was at the used book stores (yes I went to all of them) in Seattle I bought several books on cosmology and 3 books on poetry. Poe, Emily Dickinson and Robert Frost. I am currently memorizing Frosts "The road less traveled, Snow in the corner" (for us old timers) and Emily hasn't given me a need to memorize yet and of course Poe "The Raven". " A silken sad uncertain rustling...." Gosh I love alliteration! Now back to cosmology. Oh I also got for a dollar, Ivanhoe, Gulliver's travels, and Moby Dick. What a great canoe paddle I am going to have as I connect with the universe and the intimacies of our planet in my paddle back to Michigan in my canoe.

Garden mermaid, you should have asked perhaps what my degrees are in before you said that.

Ahh an archaeologist! Way cool. OK where did the Anasazi go to. Just left to get out from under the abusive Toltecs?

Here in the southwest we have some wonderful astronomical sites such as the Sun Dagger at Chaco Canyon. And I have seen stone circles all over the world -- astronomy from the ancients to whom we would normally refer as primatives. We keep rediscovering things long known by the ancients.

greenjay, my comment that archaeology can be difficult to digest at times was not intended as a denigration of the science. I apologize if it sounded that way. In my experience and those of friends and colleagues, the implications, inspirations and connections found in ancient texts/architecture/artifacts can send the brain firing off in so many directions simultaneously that it can be alot to digest all at once. So many threads, so little time.

Hi, all - been on vacation. Happy belated BDay!

Just had to chime in as right now I'm a nominal computer person (left UNIX for The Dark Side when the dot bombed), but was originally an English/Spanish Literature Bilingual Ed major several decades ago...I have worked with some of the interesting people from Los Alamos and a few Berzerkely grads, although I am not at all in their league, and I have taught English in Mexico and read Chaucer out loud... anyhow, there is a point to this rambling, I think... I find it interesting that as I have hung around on this earth for a longer period of time, that I am finding more and more people who have interests in seemingly diametrically opposed subjects. And a lot of them seem to end up in gardening. My "geeky" friends don't garden, my "liberal arts" friends don't garden, but my gardening and ag friends are usually very well read closet (or not so closet) geeks. Just curious if other people have this same experience?

Gardener friends of mine, their current or previous occupations:

Architect.
Housewife.
Dental assitant.
Insurance saleswoman.
Postal carrier. (greatest real Cottage garden, espaliers and all)
Masters degree in Ag/soil conservationist/Driver's license office.
Nursery propagation specialist.

Some are scientists with very unscientific approaches to gardening. Although their gardens may not grow like those who approach gardening with science, they just might get more out of it.
But I think all of them would catch a reference to Dante's Inferno.
Karla, I reckon it is a function more of who you know, rather than who gardens.

Archeology is great. Mind if that becomes the topic of your thread, Betty?
Whatever happened to those cavedweller folk?

By that I assume you are not referring to the Troglodytes that live in bermed houses around here, hobbit-style? Actually, they sometimes refer to themselves as Troglodtyes, so I don't think that has the pejorative tone that it might in, say, Indiana.

Troglodytes aedon is a swift (bird) isn't it?

No, I mean the ones that built more stable houses!
(longer ago, too)

My apologies to the earthship folk.
And Paolo Soleri.
Poor sod.

Kenton
(We're going to be one raucus bunch next week!)