I have not grown these in several years but couldn't pass this one up at $5.69, buy 2, get 2 free. I only got one of these and got some other pretties as well. It looked like it had several buds on it but they were so tiny I thought they might have been seed pods.
Passiflora caerulea
P. Belotti is also almost twice the size of P. Caerulea. You have a keeper none the less.
JD
Great pics ya'll. Sure wish they had plant sales like tah around here!
So they sold me a misnamed plant, huh? That NEVER happens. LOL It has been quite a while since I was into collecting them. I have this one and P. incarnata that I can leave in the ground. I don't see me collecting them again any time soon but they sure are pretty.
Thanks JLD for the correct ID.
I get lucky occasionally djm. LOL
Your not alone on deals like that. I was at both Lowes and Home Depot last month and they were selling atleast 2 different cultivars of Passionflower both as Caerulea. I( bought one hoping it wasn't Belotti as it had leaves very similar. So now I have belotti coming out my ears. When you see the leaves of belotti and caerulea side by side, they're worlds apart. Caerulea has 5 fingered leaves when mature, sometimes its only 3 but they're very seperate where belotti has 3 lobbed leaves with more "webbing"9for a lack of better words) between the blades. To make it even worse, the labels on the plants all said hardy blue passion flower but had pictures of a Incarnata flower!
LOL That reminds me. I bought another belotti this year at another nursery hoping it was incense or amethistina. It too turned out to be belotti but they had it labelled and grouped with CLEMATIS! Man thats WAY off.
Atleast it only cost me 5$
LOL I am glad I did not have my heart set on anything but flowers. :) I used to have a very good older friend up in Dayton that collected passiflora. He just sort of disappeared after his wife fell ill. I think of him often. I hope you can find the ones you seek.
'Chele
you can send that baby NORTH!!!!
LOL
LOL CC! You gonna winter it over for me?
OOooh, your flower is so pretty! I have one that is busily covering the whole side of my house, but I've yet to have a bloom yet. I can't wait! How long before they bloom?
Ack! I got an itsy bitsy one in a 4" pot and it looked like it had a few buds on it. I have had it about 2 weeks and it has the one bloom and a bunch of buds. It can't be more than a two feet long with about 3 branches. Maybe yours has too much space to roam? When I grew them a few years ago, I can't remember how big, old or how long it took for them to bloom.
cnswift
Thats so odd you've yet to see a bloom. Bloom time is more an age thing than a size thing. I have cutting less than 1 foot long and they're blooming already but they came from a mature plant.
I know I tend to get more blooms with most Passiflora's if I keep them potted up, pruned and just a tad rootbound. When they're in the ground, they tend to grow much more foliage IMO. That doesn't go far all passion flowers but many of them around here.
You just reminded me of my biggest vine I ever had, P. Edulis. I had it planted in the yard all last year and I never did see a single bloom darnit. I didn't get it out of the ground in time last fall and lost it darnit.
Now I have an enormous P. Alata that is beginning to remind me of that Edulis. I sure hope it takes off soon, and yours too!
Goodluck, Jeff
Well my plant is in the ground on a very sunny wall. It is getting enourmous which is what I wanted, but i didn't know I wouldn't have many blooms. I'll take a photo tomorrow in the light so that you can see it. It's really amazing how fast it grew and spread! It was planted in either February or March of this year, so it seems old enough. Is there something I can feed it or perhaps cutting it back to stimulate flowering?
Thanks for the luck and the comments!
I use Peter's Bloom Booster to try to speed and increase flower production. They have 2 kinds so make sure you get the powder form which is much stronger. I believe it's values are 10-50-10 or close where as the liquid is only about 8-16-8 or the like. It seems to be helping our different plants with bright blooms and much deeper green foliage. I'm sure Miracle grow has a similar product and many other companies too. I've tried most of them, I think we get better results with Peter's.
There are endless variables as to why 1 may work better for 1 person and not the next as PH and soil condition can change things a bunch too. You just have to play around and see what suits you best.
Goodluck, JD
Thanks for the furtilizer advice. I haven't been using anything special really. Something called grow power that is granular was reccommended by the nursery for all the plants, so that's all I've used so far (aside from special ones for the palms and citrus). Here is what it looks like so far. The middle stem was only about a skinny 3' tall on a supporting stake (it's hard to see from the view of the photo). Do you think this looks normal?
Yeah that looks plenty healthy. From the looks of the leaves, You may have a Blue Bouquet or a similar Passiflora. The ones I have that are that kind don't really start to bloom much until about this time of year. They need to see the days are beginning to get shorter to trigger them to flower. Now that that's happening, mine are setting buds like mad and ought to be blooming really soon. I'd say yours will be too, patients is tough sometimes isn't it? LOL
Jeff
Oh good, thanks for the encouragement. It is VERY hard to be patient! :P
WOW cnswift, that's 1 more I'm putting on my "must have/get" list.
Thanks for the pics, please keep them coming.
JD
Ok, now I have to share my mis-labeled story. I didn't buy it, but I saw a Passiflora Ruby Glow at a nursery labeled as Passiflora Quadrangularis, with a picture of Passiflora Caerulea. How much more confusing does it get than this
Mark
Hi Mark (and neighbor!)
Is this the Passiflora Ruby Glow? Which nursery did you see it at? This one came from Miramar Wholesale Nursery.
Thanks, Christina :)
PS: I hate when they mislabel things, I really have a hard enough time as it is!
LOL Mark. This year has been the worst ever for fnding mislabled plants here. I bought another unwanted P. Belotti that was marked a clematis for 4$. I bought it kinda knowing it was more than likely Belotti but I was hopefull it was something else. Oh well.
What can you do? LOL
cnswift. I'm not sure which passiflora that is but I'd sure like a piece of it if you ever cut on it. Itr's very unique compred to the ones I have.
I'm having the worst luck ever getting my passie's to bloom much this summer. Normally they're all just covered with buds and blooms right now. I can probably count all the blooms on my 2 hands right now. This heat and dry spell is brutal.
Goodluck;) Keep the lovely pictures coming!
Jeff
Sure, I can share a cutting when it gets a little bigger. I'm new to the site and haven't swapped cuttings before. When is a good time to cut it? How in the heck do you ship it without it dying?
Well shipping is the easy part and I can explain how to do that easy enough. I think I'm going to do a little shipping/packaging 101 and take pictures step by step this time for everyone to see and share techniques as well.
You can take cuttings most anytime, many people have a very hard time getting them to root. I've found a product that makes rooting cuts very simple IMO. They are starter cubes called "Rapid Rooter's". Here is a link that describes them and helps you find a local dealer for them.
http://www.genhydro.com/genhydro_US/rapidrooter2.html
Using these in a tray or another container is great but you must either make or buy a humidity dome to keep them from drying out until they root. many people use 2 liter bottles and cut off the tops to cover cuttings with that as a plastic dome. That works really well if your taking just a few cuttings. When I take cuttings, I usually do 25-50 at any given time of various kinds of plants so I use a dome like this:
http://www.greenandclean.ca/id262.htm
The sole reason I use these is that they fit on the propagation trays I use perfectly. Some people just put sticks around the cuts to prop up a tent made of a clear plastic baggie as a humidity dome. It's just a matter of personal prefference as all work equally well IMO.
I could only find 1 store in the Kansas city area that sells rapid rooters and it is a hydroponics supply store. They also sell the domes I use so it works out well for me and I can use them over and over for countless years so far.
There is a method of cutting stems for rooting that helps out a bunch in rooting IMO. I have a thread I started in here somewhere with step by step instructions and pictures. I'll try to find it, you may want to do a search for some of my posts about rooting cuttings too as I have a hard time finding them and/or remembering what the threads were called.
Give it a try. It's very rewarding making your own plants and it also will expand your plant collection bigtime via trading wth others in here. That is how I got 99% of my passiflora's. This place is awesome for this, I love it;)
Jeff
wow, you're so helpful! thanks! I'm taking baby steps in the garden to start, but can't wait until I become proficient enough to do more advanced thinks like rooting etc. :)
Ohh Jeff, that sounded so interesting so I went and found that thread, I think. http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/490826/
Got to get back to work and come back and read and take notes later.
That is 1 of them but not the 1 with pics. It's in the vines and climbers forum under a thread someone else started and I can't find it to save my life! LOL I'll keep looking.
The P. Belotii is often sold as "Blue Passion Flower", "alato-cerulea" and as "caerulea". A wholesale liner farm offers them as caerulea.
YEAH! I finally found the thread I was telling you about.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/523806/
This 1 has pictures of cuttings at various stages from day 1 to being ready to pot or ship. These rapid rooter cubes are great for another huge reason IMO. They provide a "handle" in the form of a cubes that makes handling and shipping delicate cuttings much easier. You can handle them by holding on to a cube rather than a fragile stem with very delicate roots barely hanging on. Check out this link and let me know if I can be helpful in any other ways. I have this "vision" of all of us using similar tactics to root then share all of our plants with each other. I think rapid rooter's will be the key to making this idea much easier for everyone. I know this is the only place I've seen many of the more unique plants I'd like to have as no nurseries around here carry any of them sadly. Even if they did, the retail cost of them would be too steep for my pockets.
Goodluck and take care;)
JD
Perfect! I've emailed this link to myself at home to store in my 'plants' folder for when I'm ready to undertake such a task. Thank you thank you!
Your quite welcome, no need to thank me.
IMO most people think cloning/rooting cuttings is much more complex or difficult than it really is. If you have a few key items like a humidity dome of some sort, rapid rooter cubes or rooting hormone for another type of medium, the plant does 99% of the work. I think there are a couple steps in the way you take/make your cutting that are important. I use a clean razor blade for each sesson/batch of cuttings to help be sure that my cuts are super clean and smoothly cut at a very long angle. I also try to include a node at or just above where I make my cut and put into the cube or other medium. I've found many plants will root a little faster when a node is included in the very end of the cutting. If I don't have enough length on the cutting to include a node, I use the razor to scrape through the outter layer of "skin" on the cutting. I think that area of the stem is called the meristem but I'm not sure, the practice is called "root scarification" if I remember correctly. It is supposed to expose the layer of stem that the roots begin from and make it easier for the plant to send out the roots with out having to grow through the "skin" of the stem. I've seen it work well on plants I've rooting in a bucket of water with a airstone in it. So far, everyone that rooted sent out the roots from that space where I scraped away that skin. Many people say the bubbling bucket does't work on passion flower vines, I have some that are well rooted enough that they're ready to be potted up IMO. I didn't mean to try it, I cut some vines that I intended on putting in cubes. I already had a bubbling bucket set up on the deck for some brugs and other plants and I put the passion vines in there to store them until later that night when I planned on putting them in cubes. Well obviously I never got around to doing anything further with them and much to my suprise, they rooted in the bucket. They're 4-5 vines of different passiflora's all around 3 feet long rooted and continuing to grow in the darn bucket!LOL It figures that when I'm not trying to root them in a bucket, they root and vise versa. I try to remind myself that all of my plants are considered "weeds" somewhere in the world and we treat them like gems as they're unique to us;). Glorified weeds, gotta love them.
Have a great weekend all!
JD
That is really funny about how they're considered weeds by someone somewhere! Even here I keep reading how one person hates this or that plant, and I'll think to myself "I'd love to have that in my yard!". To me anything that grows by my black thumb is a gem! :) You have a great weekend as well.
Has anyone here ever grown one of these indoors?
My living room is wall-to-wall floor-to-ceiling glass + skylights, with east, west, & southern exposures. I was thinking of perhaps training a blooming vine inside one of the windows for the winter, & a purple variety of this would be perfect, as my "colors" are pale green & purple.
Any thoughts?
I grow a few indoors every winter. I have a huge grow light I use but if you have a really bright window, they'd probably bloom for you. They will get very thin and stretchy with out as much light and the need for feeding and watering will be cut by more than 1/2. Give it a try and let me know how it goes.
JD
Thanks!! Like I said - the living area is almost greenhouse bright. I mean wall-to-wall floor-to-ceiling glass + 3 large skylights. I'm probably the only person in the area who either has windows open or a/c on in the middle of January - lol!!!!
When we remodled the bathroom, I made the cieling 12 foot high with 2 plant ledges at 10 foot on each end of a long rectangle shaped room. I put 1 4 foot shop light over each ledge as this room gets no other light. We have philodendrons that are really long and thick so my wife used strait pins to support them. The now grow wall to wall and floor to cieling. It is a beautiful looking room and we're now putting up other kinds of plants too. It's a jungle literally;)
I wished I would of put in skylights when we did the rest of the house and roof, hindsight is great isn't it? LOL
wow jld, that sounds amazing. do you have a photo of your jungle bathroom? i'd love to see it!