Zip-bag sowing of Clematis

OSAKA, Japan(Zone 9b)

This is my first experience of zip- bag sowing of Clematis .
I put the Clematis seeds in a zip-bag with some water on May 5 this year.
I placed the bag on the shelf in the room temperature.
I found the germination on October 25 !
This is the pic.

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Brandon, MS(Zone 8a)

That's amazing. Why didn't they go rotten in five months? Did you use distilled water?
Natasha

OSAKA, Japan(Zone 9b)

Hello trifunov,

Thank you for posting your comment.
I myself was amazed at them not getting rotten .
The reason might be that there were no chaff or things like that in it .
The essential thing perhaps is to remove the skin and get the seed out of the pistel.
I used tap water and changed it once in august.

This pic is the pistel of C. crispa and its seeds.

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(Zone 4a)

TomTom, that is remarkable.

The C. crispa seeds look large.

I am a novice at Clematis seed finding.
Would you please advise with more
information?

Thank you...

Woodland Park, CO(Zone 4b)

Tom
Were these seeds from last year or were they fresh?
Looks like you did not use a paper towel-just seeds and water in the bag?
Maybe that's also why they did not rot-no other contaminants in there with the seed....

Brandon, MS(Zone 8a)

Maybe Japanese tap water is better than Mississippi tap water. If I leave tap water in a glass it is slimy within a day or two. Have you tried germinating anything else in a zip-bag?
Natasha

Bryson, QC(Zone 4a)

Tomtom, What kind of Clematis are they?? Gee, mine don't look like that as a seed. They are huge yours-mine look like little feathers with the tiny seeds at the end of it....HMMM
Thanks, Ingrid

OSAKA, Japan(Zone 9b)

Hi ,taramak,
Yes, the C.crispa seeds are large as the C.seeds go.
I also am a novice at C. seed finding, but one of the most important things,
as you know, seems to be getting the ripe seeds.--those produced by
the first flowers in particular that bloomed in spring.
To get these seeds it's advisable to leave a first few flowers with out cutting them all.LOL
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Hi caron,
These seeds are all fresh ones.I think fresh ones are easier to germinate.
I put some tap water in the bag without useing a paper towel.
As you suggest, contaminants are better removed.
Actually, the water in the bag where I sowed C .crispa a few days ago
began coloring. there might have been some contaminants .
So I removed chaff and returned the seeds to the bag with new water.

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OSAKA, Japan(Zone 9b)

trifunov,
Osak tap water is notorious for it's chlorime.LOL
I've not yet tried the zip-bag method on other seeds.
I sometimes germinate by the paper-towel method .
Right now I am trying to germinate Tropaeolum azureum
(Blue nasturtium)by it.

Below is the pic of blue nasturium at it germination.
Isn't it fantastic ?
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Hello, Paridise,
The seeds in the first photo are those of C.patens
(one of Japanese species)
The second ones are those of C.crispa.
They are in the pods with feathery tails.
Clematis seeds and pods are intriguingly different
in shape and size between species.



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Brandon, MS(Zone 8a)

Thanks, Tomtom. I'm going to try it this winter.
Natasha

I wonder if another reason the water stayed 'fresh' is because of severely limited supply of air? The bag is closed and has most of the excess air squeezed out of it.....

OSAKA, Japan(Zone 9b)

Hi, dstartz,

You said itI
Doutlessly it's one of the main reasons why the water stays fresh.
Thanks for your tipping.

Tomtom

Woodland Park, CO(Zone 4b)

Yes I have also heard that fresh Clematis seeds are easier to germinate and once they dry it's hard to break dormancy in them.
Never thought of doing this without the baggie. It's such a pain sometimes if you wait too long and the roots get stuck in the baggie!!

OSAKA, Japan(Zone 9b)

caron

Clematis take a long time to germinate--sometimes a year,or longer.
I was told by a person who gave me the seeds and let me know the zip-bag
method that they would germinate in the fall.
That's why I didn't have to take any care in the course of practically half a year.
The moment I found the germination I transplanted them in the pots outdoors.

Tomtom

Woodland Park, CO(Zone 4b)

Thanks Tomtom!!
Now I have a new method to try 8^)

Palmyra, IL(Zone 5b)

Here's another clematis growing link someone just gave me with the germination table.I'm giving several kinds a try this winter also.Thanks,Jody

http://www.richardsdad.btinternet.co.uk/Germination.htm

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