Please help me ID

Lehi, UT

These are on my plumeria (in a greenhouse). Thought the spider mites had come back (the leaves look mottled like when I had spider mites), but this doesn't look like the eggs they laid. And I haven't seen ANY webs. I thought it could be rust, but it doesn't look like any of the pics I can find online.

If I spray with a hose for a while, they can be sprayed off, but I'd never get them all. The leaves are curling up and falling off like mad.

Any ideas?

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Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Scale?

Contra Costa County, CA(Zone 9b)

I think lisac is right- scale.

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