Need help identifying a couple of cycads

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The_Meadows Hidden Meadows, CA Sep 14, 2012

Here is the first one - it seems to like shade and the new leaves opened like a fern - its very pretty.

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palmbob Acton, CA(Zone 8b) Sep 20, 2012

This one is probably Ceratozamia mexicana, or a closely related Ceratozamia

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