Cilivia

Landisburg, PA(Zone 6a)

not sure the speling is right...I have a pot full.They bloomed for several years and the last 2 they haven't.I wonder if I should separate them...There is 4 large ones and several smaller ones in the same pot.....

Frederick, MD(Zone 6b)

I recently got a Clivia (a yellow one), but it's a new plant for me. Gitagal had an enormous rootbound one that she separated (last year I think)... maybe she'll pop in with some advice.

Do you have a photo? Do you think the plant might be too rootbound to bloom? I'm not sure if it would be better to split the clump or just give it a bigger pot and fresh potting mix...

Dover, PA(Zone 6b)

I have one but I haven't had it very long either. I was under the impression that they liked being root bound. I agree Gita would be likely to know.

Frederick, MD(Zone 6b)

I think they do like being rootbound, but there may be limits (since it's stopped blooming)... I think I'm remembering that Gita's clump had actually split its pot when she decided to divide it... ?

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Gita's had been crammed in the same pot for years as I recall. She'll probably give you a doctoral thesis on her experience when she sees you need advice ! She may have put her pictures in the Bringin-ins thread. They are here somewhere.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

OK! OK!
Holly directed me to this Thread....

I appreciate all your comments--but i am still just a novice on this plant as well....
Background----
My friend, Helen, asked me in 2008 if i would like to have a Clivia. I had heard of this plant but had never seen one.
I said: "Sure!"....I was expecting a 6" pot or something on that order....and then she came--lugging this 40lb. plant in ONLY a 10" or 12" pot. HUGE!
She said it had been her mother's--and she had 2 of them. It was at least 30yrs. old and, as for the time she had owned it--it had never been fertilized and that she seldom watered it.
In the winter, she kept it in a sun room and totally ignored it.

When I received it--it was in full bloom and it's roots were all over the surface and looping up.

here is my gift.

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Here's a look at how root bound it was--and didn't seem to mind one bit....This was in march of 2008.

I kept it in filtered light outside all Summer and watered it whenever i watered I watered other things....
Brought it in for the Winter ans kept it on a stool near my not-so-bright LR window--but as it was HUGE and I had read it needed a dormancy of sorts, I decided it would have to do.

Bluepoppy---
I tried getting more information on this plant from everywhere....but the best "tutorial" I had was going to PF and looking up Clivia, and then reading the large amount of comments by people from all over the world...many from S. America....
I would suggest you take a look at these comments....It will expand your understanding of this plant.

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

I just went to PF--and there are NO comments on any of them! Hmmmmmmmm?????
I KNOW I read about it somewhere! Was going to post a link for you....

OK! To continue....
The following Summer--I took it back outside and it only presented me with a few, puny blooms....
By end of Summer--i was sure I wanted to divide it....What did i have to loose?
Long story short---it took me over 1/2 hour to get it out of the pot....ended up beating the pot with my 4lb sledge--hard!
it was amazing that the pot never even cracked....
After a long while of this, the root ball finally loosened from the pot and i was able to pull it out.

It was SOOOO hopelessly entangled in it's roots, that after trying to unwind some of them, I gave up and got a strong kitchen knife and started "butchering" the root mass. No mercy!!!

After rinsing all the soil off with water--this is what I had to start with.

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

This is what I ended up with. 12 divisions to pot up.

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

As you can see--there are plenty of root left on all of these so i was confident they would all make it...

Here they are--all potted up.

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Here is their Winter home----
I have since taken 2 of these outside--as one already finished blooming and the other one had blooms starting. The blooms come out from the very base from between the rosette of leaves....

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Here is the one that was first to bloom. I was so tickled!

I plan to keep them all until next year. take as good care as I can and by next year they should be good-looking plants.
I plan to sell most of them, as these plants do not come cheap. Especially if they are in bloom.

Just FYI--bluepoppy--the yellows are more costly that the oranges....Which one do you have?

All I would tell you is that it likes being root bound. Don't mess with it! I hope you just let it be and enjoy it....
There is a lot of info out there--just look for it...Wish i could remember where i saw it......

Hope this was somewhat helpful. Gita

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Frederick, MD(Zone 6b)

Thanks, Gita! That's such a pretty bloom on that division in the last photo.. you probably posted that on another thread, but I must have missed it... I'm tickled that some of those divisions have already bloomed for you!

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Thanks Jill--

Yes, I did post it somewhere else, as this happened in March....

Just went out to take the following 2 pictures.
Here is another division that I have now had outside for over a week as it was showing a flower bud emerging.
BTW--Clivias can take pretty low temperatures--so I remember from wherever i was reading all these comments.....

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Here is a closer up of from where the bloom-stalk-to-be emerges.
Interesting, no?

Just wondering---was there, maybe, an article written on Clivias? maybe that is where all the comments were??????
I know this will be driving me crazy--as i DO remember reading them all--and there were many, many!

Gita

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Frederick, MD(Zone 6b)

There are a lot of comments on this PF entry page (it's not the entry for any specific cultivar but rather the page for Clivia miniata in general)

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2201/

Landisburg, PA(Zone 6a)

Mine is the orange one and had remembered that I had read someplace not to take the pups off...So I hadn't but now it hasn't bloomed for the last 2 years and thought maybe I needed to separate. Why would it not be blooming? I haven't put it out in the summer...Maybe I need to do that?????

Frederick, MD(Zone 6b)

Read the comments on the PF page... there's some thought that it may need a cool period (but not freezing!) to bloom.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Thanks, Jill.....

I knew I wasn't imagining this!!!
I guess I just didn't check out all the varieties well enough.

Yes! Please read all this--it has wondeful, aggregate information.

Landisburg, PA(Zone 6a)

Really checked mine over this morning and do see a little orange coming. Maybe I will get a flower afterall...ANd it will be cold this fall and winter if that is what it takes...Never did water and fertilize it much. So now I guess I need to add the cold........

Dover, PA(Zone 6b)

I was told the best way to get the most blooms from a Christmas Cactus was to keep it out side until you get your first frost warning and then bring it inside. I wonder how that would work for a clivia. I think I might try that with mine. I also thought Cilvia bloom in the fall, do they bloom at other times, too?

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Holly--

Clivias bloom in early Spring--like NOW! Did you see my photo of how the bloom emerges?

Also--please go to the link Jill found and read all the Comments on how to take care of the Clivias....

I brought ALL 12 of mine out today! Whatever happens---they will have to deal with it.....NOT gonna haul them back inside! They look really good! Several others are showing flower buds emerging.....GOOD!

I will take VERY, VERY good care of them this Summer (I hope!) and then sell them next Spring for, maybe, $25-$30 each. They should be much better after a year of being outside, etc....

Wish me luck! Gita

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Holly--that Xmascactus thing crossed my mind too.

Good luck Gita!

Near Lake Erie, NW, PA(Zone 5a)

I have alway had good blooms from my "Thanksgiving" Xmascactus. When I started summering it outside on the covered deck. When I took it back in just before a frost it was loaded with buds.
It died off last year, it was pretty old, I bought it some 25 years ago as a tiny plant at the grocery store. Oh well now I'm into Rex begonias.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Several more of my Clivias are forming bloom-buds......So neat--the emerge from the base of the cluster of leaves....
I guess no harm was really done in the dividing--or the poor light conditions of the 12 divisions in my basement....

They have all been outside now for a couple of weeks. I did seclude them several days ago under my patio table as the night temps. went down to below 40*....Yesterday--they all came out again!

Will take some more photos.....Gita

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