Oriental persimmon disease?

Chapel Hill, NC(Zone 7b)

I have two oriental persimmons, the fuyu has maybe20 percent of leaves that are curling upwards and are a bit discolored (more yellow). The other tree (don't remember what kind, but astringent) has just a few leaves thus affected. I noticed some red ants on the fuyu tree.

I read somewhere that persimmons can get a leaf spot (I don't really know what that is, except that I think it is a fungus), which, however, does not ruin the tree. We have had a lot of rain in our area lately.

Can anyone give me an opinion on what might be going on?

Thanks, C.

New Iberia, LA

Clementine
I had a young fuyu with the same symptoms caused by aphids. I almost missed the symptoms because Persimmons down here rarely need any attention. Anyway I would look for them as a possible cause.
Oldude

Chapel Hill, NC(Zone 7b)

Hey, thanks, oldude (we have talked before, I remember), I'll check for aphids in a couple of days - going out of town tomorrow.

I'll report back.

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