I have seen lots of beautiful roses on this forum and it's got me thinking. I have a small arbor and wondered if there was a rose out there that would grow enough to go over an arbor but not overwhelm it. With the beautiful blooms that roses have just one or two canes going up the arbor would be enough. And of course one that keeps blooming vs one flush and you are done. (I don't ask for much do I? The arbor I have is tall but not very deep. I may have to get something else for it. It's really beautiful and I want to still be able to see it regardless of what is growing over it
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Jazz, I'm finding that reblooming climbers that are cane hardy for our zones are a bit tougher to come by. But since you don't want it overly vigorous you may just be in luck! I saw a climbing 'Fourth of July' last week that was putting on a gorgeous display. The people growing it have it set against the house, so it gets wind protection and may not be suited to being out in the open. I did just notice that Chamblees has it listed as hardy in zones 4-9- sure hope the cuttings I got off that plant root! 'Eden' is a lovely soft pink climber with old fashioned cabbage shaped blooms that may work. Its reported hardy enough in MN to grow as a shrub, so it may just work. Mine is only in its 2nd year and needs to be moved to a sunnier spot. Its been prone to those little green worms that leave windows in the leaves, which could be due to being under stress. I've found New Dawn to be very hardy, vigorous, and disease resistant, but it would probably be too vigorous for the spot. However in colder zones there's often enough winter die back to keep it in check. Oh, and I just remembered a nice red one called 'Dortmund' that has been doing very well. You have to keep it dead headed (prevent hip production) to get good rebloom, but its worth it.
I don't know of any climbers that are in constant bloom in our zones; they typically occur in flushes, most years 2 for mine with sporadic blooms in between. A clematis growing along with the rose may be helpful in keeping some color for more of the season.
There are some I've been reading about and on my wish list. Westerland is an orange one I'm wanting. 'Aloha' is a pretty pink reported to be zone 5 hardy. 'Pinata' is a colorful one that Chamblees lists as hardy in zones 4-9. I picked up a couple of cheap bagged ones of those this spring, but would prefer own root to grafted. If they grow well I'll try to get some cuttings going.
New Dawn and Eden are just beautiful. My Blaze and Iceberg, seem to be very hardy, and like Neal says, have 2 big flushes with sporadis blooming throughout the seasons, Golded showers is another pretty. If you like red their is one called Quadra, that is hardy to Canada.
Climbing Peace and Joesph's coat are colorful.
Thanks for the suggestions. I think I am probably the only person in the world who wants a scrawny rose? lol.. I will have to go look those up. Now just to double check I am imagining that roses don't like wet ground?
Well, roses do like plenty of moisture, but need it to be well drained too. Is the spot swampy?
My cl Blaze is really scrawny it only has 1 very long cane , a shorter cane, and a realy short cane.
It's wet in the spring but the rest of the year is usually ok
Jazzy.. what color is your trellis?? Do you have a pic? and what color rose did you have in mind??
It's a metal trellis with a distressed white finish. I think I have a picture at home
I want it! lol haven't seen it but know I want it! lol
Oh You have too seen it. It's between the front and side yard on the north side. right at the beginning of the path. You told me it would look good in my new garden :)
I cant find the pics so I will go take a new one after I finish my paper!! lol lol lol hehehe need to finish that puppy
Edited because I Kant TYpe
This message was edited Jun 17, 2008 1:47 PM
OH! THAT one, yeah still want it! hehehe
Hey Jazz,
Did you ever decide on a scrawny climber for your arbor?
I used to grow climbing Peace, a traditional climber with thick canes that mostly bloomed on the top and hardly any on the sides.
It's easy enough to keep the sides trimmed and let the top bloom away... I had to work like crazy to get the side blooms you see.
The secret to getting a climbing HT rose to bloom only at the top is to peg the canes straight up, the part that is then bent over the top of the arbor will bloom from the lateral growth that develops.
(clear as mud?)
Dove
I like Zephirine Drouhin, no thorns and very easy to grow and bloom
dovey, thats so beautiful! Do you know if the people who bought your CA house appreciate the work you did? I'm curious how cane hardy Climbing Peace is. I've avoided most of the climbing hybrid teas because of that concern, but I would like to find some reliable reblooming climbers.
Celene, beautiful shot of ZD! I can't wait to get that one going!
No I haven't found one yet. It's a project in planning that will be done after I have conquered teh weeds.. ha ha ha
It's suppose to be hardy 6b through 9b, which makes it iffy for me.
It all depends on how fussy you want to be with your roses. I know a girl in Canada who wraps her climbers in burlap stuffed lightly with straw each winter. Of course she lives in something crazy like zone 3 or 2 or 0....
Celene,
When I moved here I was like a broken record about my desperate need to grow Zephirine Drouhin. I looked everywhere and didn't find it. Someone would say, "oh I got mine at Wal-Mart and the next day poor Matt was dragged to walmart with me too look, the following week someone would post Zephirine Drouhins were sited at Home Depot and off we'd go again.
Finally we just happened to find one (well 2 actually) at The Anderson's... we were so broke that week. Matt bought them for me anyway, he's such a sweetie.
I know they are subject to powdery mildew and blackspot, but easy to grow, smell great and don't need winter protection. (and like you said no thorns) Both proved to be true to form, but I love them anyway.
Yup, I have to spray that rose pretty frequently, very true. I got mine at Oakland Park Nursery.
Jaz
Weeds... ugh. I have never seen so many dandelions and thistle.
Cover the bed area with thick newspaper, wet it, lay an old carpet over it and keep it damp.
Zero light will take care of your weeds in a couple of weeks and the worms with go to work under there so that you'll just have to remove the carpet and dig your hole.
Heaven forbid you let a little thing like weeds stop you from planting a rose *L*
Most Rosefully
Dove
Me too, lots of alfalfa tea and regular spraying with Neem oil.
Jazz grow a clematis on that arbor, the JB's are driving me batty!!! not to mention my poor roses, or sticks, can't quite remember what I planted there. lol
I was thinking I would do that if I move it. sheesh right now I am being killed with weeds can't even think about decorations!