Hello all,
I got this vine last fall on one of Liz's ebay auctions. I found out the hard way that it does not like cold or even cool temps. It got damaged over the winter, but a new shoot came up this spring, and it looks to be recovering nicely. It is a very fast grower, and from the looks of it, it is probably one of those vines that can climb a 20 or 30 foot tree in its native habitat. I did not expect any buds or blooms until late summer, so I was quite suprised when I found a bud on it this morning (whoo hoo!). I don't know how long it will be before it opens, but it is quite an unusual flower. Here is a pic of the bud:
Mark
Aristolochia ridicula
Here is a link that shows what the flower looks like when it blooms.
Mark
http://mpeixoto.sites.uol.com.br/aristo/ridicula.html
Congratulations Mark! How exciting. This Aristolochia is on my list. I hope to add it to my collection someday. Please make sure to post pictures in the coming days. The vine may look a bit scraggly now, but I'll bet it fills out nicely this summer.
Erick
Wow love this vine.
Hello all,
The flower opened today--actually it might have opened yestereday afternoon--I'm really not sure. I took lots of pics!
It has a slightly unpleasant odor that is difficult to describe. I would rate the odor a 2 or 3 on a scale of 1 to 10 where 10 is the worst. I could only smell it if I was about a foot or foot and a half away. So far, I have not seen any flies going into it.
Mark
Mark,
That is absolutely amazing! I am drooling like a baby. That is a contender for the most amazing Aristolochia bloom I have ever seen. Congratulations! And your pictures are outstanding. Should you have extra rooted cuttings someday in the future, I would be THRILLED to purchase one from you.
Wow!
Erick
Wonderful flowers and great pictures. I also really like your portable trellis setups. Did you buy or make them?
Susan in Minneapolis
Hi Susan and Liz,
I made the trellis myself--the wheels are nice cause I can move it around the patio, or to a different spot around the yard if need be.
Erick, I hope to have seeds by the end of the summer, but will also try to make some cuttings, since those would be easier to overwinter. I'm sure we can do a trade.
The "petals" of the flower uncurled today, and almost all of the hairs in the throat withered, so if there were any flies in there, they were able to get away. Alas, there was no other open flower for them to pollinate.
Here's a pic:
Mark
Today the petals of the flower curved inward, and the flower withered a bit. When I went to check it at sundown, it had fallen from the vine. So, it looks like the flowers last 3 days. On day 1, it has a bit of a smell to attract flies, and hairs to keep them in the flower once they go in. On day 2, the hairs wither and the flies (hopefully laden with pollen) can leave to pollinate another flower. On day 3, the flower withers and falls if it has not been pollenated.
Here's a pic with the petals closed:
Mark
Mark,
It's the most intrigue object of all vines.
Hi Liz,
I'm going put most of these in the Plant files, but I want to wait until after the second flower opens to confirm my notes so far. It should only be a couple of weeks now. I have 3 buds on the vine. It is getting a bit difficult to manage, as it has already reached the top of the trellis. I have one baby seedling that I am going to try to make a very tall trellis for--maybe 12 or 15 feet. I would not be surprised if these vines could grow 20 or 30 feet.
Joseph and Lily_love: when I saw the vine on Liz's ebay auction, I knew I was going to "bid to win", LOL! I don't remember what the final bid was, but it was quite reasonable. Joseph, if I get any seed pods, I'm sure there will be plenty of seeds to go around. I am going to try to make some cuttings in about 4 to 6 weeks. So we'll see!
Mark
I'm going to dream about this vine tonite!
Mark,
What a great thread for us vine afficiandos.
A couple respectful suggestions for staking/trellising your cool A. riducla:
In my limited experience, most tropical Aristolochias are sturdy vines that grow like weeds when given full sun and ample water. Rather than trying to build ever larger trellis' (trellises?) to accommodate them, consider a moderate-sized trellis - a standard large tomato cage works great for me - and simply wind the shoots around and in and out the cage as they grow, or trim them off if they are gangly. From my observations, moderate pruning seems to invigorate Aristolochias if they are in growing mode.
One big advantage to this approach is that it's really easy to move the plants, either to turn them, place them somewhere else, or bring them into the shower for a good spray.
The picture below is, left to right, A. ringens, A. trilobata and A. elegans about a month ago, on my porch, just before I trimmed them back and moved them out into the garden. I just noticed today that the A. trilobata has several dozen flower buds already....I am THRILLED!
Please keep posting pictures.
Regards,
Erick
This message was edited May 14, 2007 10:58 PM
Hi Erick,
Thanks for the suggestions. I have thought about trying to make a spiral trellis out of wire. Right now I have 2 shoots on the vine that I just draped back over the top of the trellis once they reached the top. This seems to be working reasonably well. But there are a couple of things about this vine that might cause problems. First is the size of the leaves--they are about 6 inches across once they are grown out, so the vine does seem to need a bit of space. Second, a new shoot forms just above every leaf. Until now, most of these have been dying off--probably from the low 60s night temps that we've been having on occasion. But if they all survive once the weather warms up, then the vine could get out of hand pretty quickly. Of course, if that happens I'll just be using the extra shoots for cuttings. I think the ideal natural "trellis" for this vine would be a small dead tree. But I mainly want to make a tall trellis just for the fun of it. Hopefully I will be able to get plenty of cuttings to try out different methods.
Here's a pic of the next bud--should open in a couple of weeks.
Mark
You know Liz those protuberances on the petal tips do kinda remind me of the alien craft searcher pod things in War of the Worlds--the one with Tom Cruise. LOL!
Mark
Hello Mark.
Very cool. It will be fun to see how your vine progresses in the coming months. Hopefully you will enjoy a summer of many, many blooms.
Erick
When I went out Friday morning to check the second bud, I thought it looked pretty big. I got up this morning and it had opened. The petals are more curved under than the first one. I couldn't detect any smell on it either, but as always I was pretty congested.
I've been able to track down some botany journal articles on various Aristolochia, and one of them stated that ridicula in self-incompatible. Bummer, cause the one I'm growing from seed is only a week old, and it may be a few months before it flowers. The articles state that it is possible to hand pollinate most Aristolochia--usually by cutting a small hole or window at the base of the flower. The anthers and stigma in Aristolochia are fused into a structure called the gynostemium, which is located at the base of the flower where it connects to the stem. Day 1 flowers have receptive stigma(e), but no pollen. The pollen is not released until day 2. When the pollen is released, the stigma are no longer receptive. So day 1 flowers are "female", and day 2 flowers are "male". When the next flower opens, I am going to cut a window into the base and take some pics of the gynostemium.
Here's a pic of "flower" #2:
Mark
Here's a pic from the side.
One thing that was mentioned in one of the articles was that some Aristolochia have "light windows" near the base of the flower. These windows attract the flies, who think they can escape. When they crawl around near the light windows, they pick up pollen from the anthers. If you look at the base of this flower right where the stem goes in, you can see the light windows. They will become less opaque on day 2.
Mark
Good Morning to All;
Me too, found myself following the progress of this vine with fascination. Thank you, Mark, for sharing such wonderful details.
Kim
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