Astilbe ==> doss and dax

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

do either of you have close ups of the foliage?

I browsed the "plant files" and there was maybe 1 image of the foliage.

and what is the general height?
foliage and plumes

TIA,

Terese

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

Here's a close up of one kind. They range in height between 10" and 4 feet depending on the cultivar. Some have dark foliage too. They also bloom at different times depending on the cultivar so you can choose whether to have them bloom at one time or over a period. I've found that the height listed it the top of the flowers. The foliage is usually about 1/2 that in my experience.

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Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

thanks.... i just really didnt know what the foliage looked like.

I understand about the colors/bloom time as you explained that in a different thread.

Terese

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

Ok Terese - sorry I didn't remember. The foliage is really beautiful and I would grow it for a foliage plant even if it didn't have flowers. It's hard to find something lacy like that in a shade garden. Hope that you try them.

Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Hi tcs1366 - Sorry to get back to you so late - I just got on, been in the garden ALL day. I'm in heaven! Here are a few pics - as close as I have of the foliage. First is a dwarf fern leaf - this one gets to be about 8" and is lovely with small hosta - a beautiful fern leaf that looks good all summer -

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Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

This is the white - looks pretty much the same as the pink - dark green, thin pointed leaves - gets about 2 feet high (the foliage) -

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Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

And here is a beautiful color - they call it lavender - the leaves are broader and brighter green. Same height as the pink and white -
Hope these help - Dax

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Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

thanks dax... they are beautiful.

Oakton, VA(Zone 7a)

Here's a picture of my 'Peach Blossom' astilbe after the blooms have faded: http://davesgarden.com/journal/edit/showimage.php?eid=95701

They don't rebloom so I don't deadhead them. When the leaves start to die I cut them to the ground, usually the beginning of November.

I agree with doss; the foliage is beautiful. The blooms are extra!

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

very nice.... thanks for adding the link.

I'm thinking i need MORE of these. 1 of the 3 i planted this spring has started to poke out of the ground.

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

I was just talking to one of my neighbors... she's been in the park over 20 yrs -- and her gardens are gorgeous.
I was asking her what some of the stuff in my yard is... since i have no idea. I do have astilbes coming up. YAY.
and other things that i thought were weeds, she said will flower. though i dont know what they are.

she also said that before they sell (in a yr or so -- they are in their 70's) she will divide a lo t of her plants and give some to me. another YAY.

Oakton, VA(Zone 7a)

tcs1366, those are the best kind of plants to get -- dearly loved and cared for by someone with goregeous gardens!

I have 22 astilbe planted in that drift. They are absolutely wonderful as you are approaching our driveway. I wait eagerly for them to start blooming every year. Here they are in bloom last June: http://davesgarden.com/journal/edit/showimage.php?eid=91262. My camera doesn't really do the peach color justice.

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Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Wow! Absolutely beautiful, sdagutis - I hope mine look like that some day - and Terese, not only will you get dearly loved plants, but they know that they are going to someone who will care for them and love them too - now, I'll be cleaning and running around for the rest of the week for my daughter's wedding on Saturday - so you probably won't hear from me for awhile. I will be posting some pics as the happy couple are having some taken in my gardens and I know they will be stunning! (Not that I'm prejudiced or anything!) - Becki

A pic taken last Friday -

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Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

gorgeous Becki... as usual.

have a great weekend

terese

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

This is the astible garden. It's not blooming yet but you can see the feathery foliage.

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Cedar Rapids, IA(Zone 5a)

Just beautiful!! And I love those ferns as highlights - I'm just getting started with ferns. Is that one on the right a Japanese Painted? Dax

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

I don't know what kind of a fern that is. New growth is bronze turning to green. My favorite fern right now is Alaskan Soft Shield Fern or divided soft shield fern. Polystichum setiferum is hardy in your zone. I just planted a bunch with some astilbes in my new hosta garden. I love Japanese Painted fern and I have a few but they don't grow well here. I don't think that it's cold enough for them in the winter time. So many good ferns so little time.

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

yes doss... that fern is very pretty.

and speaking of ferns... mine are multiplying so much, that the areas i wanted to put my new hostas are now filled with ferns.

so -- i may just cut them back and in the fall dig them up. but one problem, is they are directly at the lil retaining wall so i can't get a shovel in there to "pry" them out.

my lil astilbes are buried in ferns too.... unless they get their full height in the first year.... but all 3 of them are now growing. YAY.

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

Some of those ferns can really get excited, can't they? You must have picked tall cultivars to get above those ferns. What kind of ferns do you have that are taking over?

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

I believe they are ostrich ferns.

we took them from our old house when we moved. My mom planted the originals eons ago (mid-late 70's)
I recall some getting about 3ft -- these right now are maybe 2' ... but boy have they filled in this year. It seems every year we may lose 10, but gain another 20. I think we started with 10 in the fall of '01.

this is looking east... where in the image in "Landscaping the North Side"
http://davesgarden.com/forums/p.php?pid=3260158
the image is looking west. (but there is nothing there)

I've got more images to come ==>

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Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

here is the east corner... i like it to look real pretty, since this is what you see from the street and our driveway.

as you can see, it's not very wide -- my dwarf bleeding heart is looking fabulous... it is really filling out. You can see two tiny hostas that i just planted last week... and then the ferns.... it's the ones in the front that "bother" me... if they were all in the back, they wouldn't be covering up the other plants.

**typo

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Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

i just love this one.... ain't it cute?

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Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

last but not least... since this was the Astilbe thread..... [Deutschland]

here's mine (it's caged so i could find it coming up) with the montrose tricolor in front.

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Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

It IS cute. If the fern in front is bothering you, please transplant it somewhere else. I think that you will be happy doing that. Those ferns sure are gorgeous but something that tall at the front of the bed can block the flow - especially since these look as if they are small versions of the full sized plants. That bleeding heart is precious. I love it. I should think of growing some.

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

curious -- how many years will it take to get mature height for the astilbe?
or does the foliage stay a bit lower, then the plumes are much higher?

I have found a few spattered about the lot at the RV park... at first i had no idea what they were til i asked the neighbor lady.

up here (i'm in wisc now) they are still quite small... where at home the foliage is getting tall.... teehee... probably trying to compete with the ferns that are taking over the bed.

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

The foliage stays lower and the plumes are much higher. They could be different cultivars that you are looking at. They seem to gain mature height rather quickly but I have some that are taller and some that are smaller right in the same bed.

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

thanks doss. makes sense.

there are actually 2 here that i notice.... one seems to be growing higher, where the other is spreading low.

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

We'll look forward to photos!

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

yes -- certainly once they bloom.

New Hampshire, NH(Zone 5b)

Astilbe must be my all-time favorite perennial. I have at least 30 plants and I'm far from done ;o) I just can't stop myself whenever I run across one that I don't have yet!! LOL.

New Hampshire, NH(Zone 5b)

Here's a picture from last year.

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New Hampshire, NH(Zone 5b)

And another.

They are just starting to bloom this year - I can't wait!!

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Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

Now that is a stunning color combination and all blooming at the same time. Genius!

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

that is gorgeous..... is that "red" or a deeper like burgundy? very pretty.

New Hampshire, NH(Zone 5b)

Thank you. The first picture is red and pink (a combination I actually didn't care for, so I moved them last year - but it doesn't look so bad in the picture...hmmm...) In the second picture I have pink and purple (kind of a plum purple).

Oakton, VA(Zone 7a)

Doss said, "I don't know what kind of a fern that is. New growth is bronze turning to green."

I don't think it is a Japanese Painted fern. Mine are more gray-green with burgundy stems. http://davesgarden.com/journal/ed/viewimage.php?did=27684

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

I don't think that it's a japanese Painted Fern either. I have some and this fern is much larger. Your Journal is very nice by the way. I enjoyed all of the pots especially. Perhaps it's an autumn fern.

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

here's an autumn - but it also has other images.
http://www.westongardens.com/page%20content/plant%20library/autumn%20fern.htm

heres the description
>>Olive-green fronds. New growth is coppery-pink. Bronze fall color. Mature leaves are excellent in cut arrangements.

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

Yep, that's it. Thanks!

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

i love the Japanese Painted -- i just wish it was larger.

I should look into the "Autumn" also, since i bet the bronze in the Fall is gorgeous.

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