I'm soooo tempted to order Ligularia 'Britt Marie Crawford' http://www.bobnz.co.nz/varieties/ligbri.htm
and Sedum 'Purple Emperor' http://www.liddlewonder.co.nz/SchemesandThemes/lib/sedpuremp.htm
(In fact, I'm leaning heavily toward ordering both, along with a few other bulbs from Dutch Gardens - hey, a $50 order less a $20 coupon is a pretty good deal, right????)
Anybody have any experience with either of these before I take the plunge? (I'm normally a tightwad and rarely pay that much for one perennial, let alone two at once! But cabin fever + catalogs = DANGER for me, lolol.)
The year of burgundy foliage...sigh.
They are both stunning plants, especially the Sedum. It says that it is Hardy only to Zone 9 and there is no zone information on the Ligularia. I'll have to go into the PDB and take a look. Are you really going to get the sedum if you are zone 7a?
LimeyLisa Kay
I'm back from looking. Ligularia dentata 'Britt Marie Crawford' is not in the PDB but other Ligularia dentata are and they are all hardy to Zone 3a. This might be a real possibility for me.
On the Sedum, does anyone know if you can pot them up and take them inside for the winter?
LimeyLisa Kay
Well, Plants Delight says the Sedum is hardy from zones 3-7; that's backed up by several other sources. To be honest, I didn't really look that hard at the hardiness of it, because I assumed it was similar to my other S. spectabile plants ;o)
The sites I linked to above are both New Zealand (a fluke - I just picked out the first one with a decent photo of each plant, lolol.) I'm guessing their hardiness zones are interpreted a little differently?
Terry,
That sedum is gorgeous. I went to Dutch Gardens to try to get one, and they don't know it, not under Sedum Purple Emperor. Where do you suppose we can get some other than New Zealand?
Molly
Mollymc here ya go:
http://www.dutchgardens.com/sell.asp?ProdGroupID=17660&cmCategoryID=9
Avant Gardens also has it, as does Plants Delight :)
Wow, that sedum is a "have to have". Gorgeous foliage.
Great looking plants. Have you bought from dutch gardens Terry. I know I bought some lilacs from them, had them sent directly to my sister in Michigan. I never got to see them. Those other 2 place, Avant and Plants Delight, do have links for them also? I like to keep a good variety of nurseries in my bookmarks.
Thanks
Well, I took the plunge and ordered both, plus the 'Tout a Toi' dahlias and 'Champagne' tuberous begonias. (I figured if I didn't hustle up and get my order in, I might find they were all sold out to my fellow DG'ers, lolol!) There goes my plant budget for this spring, but I still have a seedbox full, and a few pennies I can use to order some more seeds at least *grin*
Mollymc, I ordered from Dutch Gardens last year when they did their summer clearance. I got some great deals on Tiger Lily, Convallaria and Cyclamens; I thought the tubers and bulbs were good-size and quality for the price. I know there are some gardeners who don't trust their daylilies to be true to name and/or complain about the quality. I don't know about the daylilies; I stick with bulbs and perennials.
Here are links to both Avant and PDN:
Avant: http://gardenwatchdog.com/c/13/
Plant Delights: http://gardenwatchdog.com/c/9/
I definitely recommend getting the PDN catalog, if you have a quirky sense of humor (because Tony Avent certainly does.)
It's a real "eye candy" catalog, and a fun read.
If you haven't spent much time in the Watchdog, I think you'll find a lot of good companies listed there, and you can see what other gardeners have to say before you order. Happy hunting!
Ahh! Terry, I looked at purple emporor, to die for!!!. Dutch bulbs certainly puts together a nice catolog online!. I was very intrigued by Ligularia 'Britt Marie Crawford'. Wow, never knew such a plant existed, especially up to 46 inches, did I read that right? :-D
You have made great selections! I've got the lingularia on my 'wish list'....now to check the budget!
:-D
I have sedum 'Mohrchen' with burgundy foliage. It looks great until it blooms and flops over. http://www.ambergategardens.com/3_2_3sed.html
Oooh, Sue - that's purty, too. I've got 'Matrona' I purchased a couple years ago http://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Current/Detail/02486.html
along with some plain-jane green S. spectabile. The 'Matrona' has been a little disappointing for me - I seem to get some type of scabbing on the foliage. I'm sure some of the problem involves the soil and the fact I've moved it a few times...
Do you pinch yours back in the spring? I did find that seemed to help them bush out more last year.
I haven't tried pinching it but I'll try and remember to this year. I had Matrona but that one vanished over winter. It must have been too wet where it was planted. I think both were actually a little disappointing. They never look like those glossy, touched-up catalog photos!
I've heard that if you make an arch about a foot tall out of chicken wire and place it over the plant in the spring, the stems will grow up through it and they won't fall over as easily. Hope it works because I'm going to give it a shot this spring.
Last year I had the cutest bed (if you're into cute). I had sedum Autumn Joy in a place that gets basically morning sun and they do tend to flop over when they get larger. This was in a smallish corner bed. I planted pink begonias with the light green leaves all in between the sedums. Some Southern Shield ferns also came up sporadically here and there in the bed. By the time the sedums started their beautiful pink blooms, the begonias and ferns were large enough to not only support them, but also full enough to hide the legginess that the sedums sometimes get. I do wish I had a picture.
this is the burgundy one i have! its kike 22in.
notmartha, that's cool-looking, too! What variety is it?
Well, my credit card just took a hit. I bought 5 different kinds. Oh my, the shipping was bad...almost as much as the plants. I wanted them though, so I just grit my teeth and pay the bill. Thanks for the links....love sedums.
I have 8 big matrona's and every spring I wack them back severely - end up with a bushel basket of cuttings. They spring back and are nice. I hate throwing the cuttings away, but what can you do with so many??? Seems like such a waste. I did stick some in the ground and they rooted fine. I like the color of autumn joy better tho.
On one of the iris threads, we got off subject (such a rare happenstance! LOL) and were discussing cutting down tomato cages into two halves. This made one wide mouthed cage and one narrower cage. At least one person said they used it on their sedum and it worked great to support them.
LimeyLisa Kay
That is a good idea for the Sedum - thanks!
Well, my purple/burgundy foliage appetite is apparently still not completely sated; I ordered Alternanthera dentata 'Purple Knight' http://www.simplybeautifulgardens.com/plant_pages/alternanthera.htm and some Oak-leaf coleus seeds from Park's. I had hoped to find Strobilanthes dyerianus ("Persian Shield") seed, but seed doesn't seem readily available, nor easy to propagate - but what a cool-looking plant: http://plantsdatabase.com/go/516/Persian+Shield_Strobilanthes_dyerianus.html
I went looking for purple shield this morning at HD, (they usually carry it there). They didn't have any, so I bought these..........
and these..........geesh, it's so dangerous to go to HD, or any nursery.
Pretty!!!! At least we have a good six weeks or so before the really tempting stuff will start being set out for our 6b/7a weather.
Has anyone seen this Purple Euphorbia? http://www.esveld.nl/htmldia/e/euapup.htm (There's a better - perhaps retouched - image on Park's Countryside Gardens, if you do a search for Euphorbia polychroma)
I'm tellin' y'all - it's a bad, bad year for me, lolol.
At least I had forgotten about this one when I hit "submit" on my Park's order. Otherwise, I might have been tempted to rationalize (it's "just one more plant", lolol!!!)
I bought six purple emperor plants last summer of all places- Walmart. I know sounds crazy but they were 5.99 per 1 gallon pot. I planted them in a bed under my small red maple, they were under planted with snow in summer. The closed ring to the trunk was purple irises. So from the trunk out it is iris, purple emperor and snow in summer. I LOVE how the combination looks. The plant isn't as aggressive as my matrona or autumn joy. It seemed to grow very slowly last summer and fall. But I really wouldn't part with it!
Davena
I'll have to take a look at what Walmart has this summer. But I got a catalog from a local nursery (okay, an hour away, but close enough!) and they have both Purple Emporer and the Ligularia mentioned above! So I can get them and have a field trip at the same time!
;~D
LimeyLisa Kay
Seems we are on a purple kick this year. This purple will get ya. Another shade of purple passion plant. I picked this up at the trade show for less than wholesale.
Hi, Terry thanks for the info on the purple sedum.That is news to me. It is nice. Do you have the Neon yet. Hot pink blooms. I was wondering about how well it does. I have the variegated and Autumn Joy. Does anyone start these from seed? I have just diveded from the roots.
Teresa
Teresa, you don't need to start AJ from seeds, unless you just want to. They are very easily started just from individual leaves.
Really, that is news to me. Just directly down and keep moist?
Here's a link that shows just how to root the leaves. You can use a root hormone and do this right away or just let it callous over naturally for a couple of days. It's really easy to do this with any sedum.
http://www.cce.cornell.edu/suffolk/grownet/indoor-plants/propagation.htm
I have this sedum called Lynda Windsor it's a beautiful dark colored foliage. I will do some cutting's on it when it grows. Check this out.
http://plants.thompson-morgan.com/uk/en/product/8700/1?SA=1303
I'll have to look for a Sedum 'Purple Emperor' I love the foliage on this one to. Cathy
I know this is an old thread, but I read it in the winter and didn't do anything about it. Anyway, Busse is selling Purple Emperor now for shipping in August for $7.00.
I finally got a catalog in the mail for a company that has a good GWD rating with a nice array of color photos (the website doesn't have a photo of this sedum tho). The only negative was from someone who bought a plant during the previous ownership.
By August the weather should be cooling in most places so shipping perennials is much safer than it has been in July.
August is going to be a really busy month for me, 2 large plant shipments coming in, the daylily co-op, plant markers....good thing business has picked up a bit!!!
:^)))
Molly
Pins
That is a very good link. thank you for sharing, its now bookmarked.
just curious if you ended up getting the ligularia, and how it turned out? I was thinking of buying one this year. Does anyone have any pictures of theirs?
Thanks!
Mara
If you like burgandy what about Lysimachia Ciliata 'Firecracker'? It's beautiful burgandy with small bright yellow flowers. It's invasive so keeping it in a pot or ground container is advised (unless you want to be like me LOL) but it's worth it. If you are interested, I have plenty. Like I said, it needs to be contained. LOL
Pixydish
I haven't tried the Lysimachia (I've got the plain old gooseneck loosestrife on the loose around my pond - ugh. The Ligularia remained potted up (until I decide what to do with it!) and I'm afraid it got a little dry in the GH this winter. I'm babying it to see if I can roust it out of hibernation....if it doesn't revive, it's my fault.
I did order some Euphorbia dulcis 'Chameleon' which I'm going to put near the front walk: http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/Plant.asp?code=S810
And - even though I dog-cuss my Oenothera when it gets out of control (which is about twice a year) - I'm tempted to go for the Oenothera 'Fireworks': http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/newviews/language/203.shtml (Hear me smacking my forehead in advance? Something tells me I'll rue the day....)