Confirmation of ID

Thunder Bay , Canada

I found these two spiders in the yard today - the one is extremely small, I'd say less than 1/4" long while the other one is quite large and living on our shed door. I believe the small black and red one is a Splendid Dwarf Spider and while I know the large one is an orb weaver, I believe it to be a Shamrock Orb Weaver. If you can confirm my thoughts, that would be great. I could not get a clear shot of the orb weavers abdomen because of how she (I'm assuming "she") is situated.

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Minot, ND

I believe you are correct with the i.d. of the splendid dwarf spider, but I think that your orb weaver more likely is a marbled orb weaver (Araneus marmoreus) - https://seabrookeleckie.com/2009/10/18/tay-meadows-tidbit-marbled-orbweaver/

Thunder Bay , Canada

Thank you Flapdoodle. I was torn between the shamrock and the marble orbs. I chose shamrock as a toss up. Thanks for the confirmation.

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