Honeysuckle problems

A friend of mine has what she says is a William Wheeler Honeysuckle. I looked it up and all I could find was Major Wheeler and I'm wondering if that is the one she means.
But anyway she was telling me that it was quite sickly with dark spots on it and she is wondering what is wrong with it and what she can do for it. She was wondering if it had a fungus.
She is going to bring me a piece of it so I can take a picture of it and when she does I will post it but I thought in the mean time maybe someone would know what could be wrong with it.

Honeysuckle gets blackspots, just like roses. And can be treated the same way.
It rarely kills a honeysuckle, But can leave it prone to other problems.

Mad

So what is the way you treat the blackspots since I don't have roses or honeysuckle so I have never delt with black spots on anything except my Maple trees these last few years and according to what I read the only way to treat the black spots on Maple leaves is to make sure and burn the leaves because they said that the black spots where spores and if the leaves are left even over winter they will rise up into the air in the spring and reinfect the tree all over again. But it said in the case of my Maple trees it doesn't hurt the trees to have those black spots.
Are you saying the same thing for this Honeysuckle? Because she said that the Honeysuckle looks sickly.
So what does she have to do to treat the black spots on her Honeysuckle?
So how can she treat the black spots on her Honeysuckle

I have good results using Immunox from spectrocide.
But first, like with your maples, remove any old leaves
and loose stuff from around the base, and discard them appropriately.
Spray the entire plant every few days, until it gone.
(I sometimes add a couple drops of Dawn soap, to help it stick)
trim out any highly effected areas.
There are organic methods as well.
1 teaspoon Baking Soda in 1 quart water,
to a 50/50 mixture of fat free milk and water. sprayed every 5 to 7 days

Hope this helps, Maybe someone else may have some ideas.

Mad

Ok finally I got a few pieces of her Honey suckle and I think it is pretty clear that it is a bug but I don't know anything about Honey suckles so I don't know what kind of bug it is. So if you have any suggestions on what to do for whatever kind of insect would do this to her Honey suckle please let me know. I'm wondering if it could be an aphid as I did see them crawling in these pictures when I was taking them I could see them crawl. They just were a lot smaller than most aphids that I usually have seen on Roses that were on my property when we bought it and are since long gone.
You can tell on the second picture the brown area of the leaf I don't know if that is damage or eggs from the insects. Oh and by the way I was wrong she said that the name of this plant was Henry Wheeler which I can't find any where all I can find is Major Wheeler.
Any help would be very welcomed.please and thank you.

I keep a spray bottle of Serenade around and use it on any number of fungal disease problems. Works pretty darn well and when in doubt, I try that first. I get it here: http://www.spray-n-growgardening.com/Serenade-Garden-Disease-Control-br32-oz-concentrate/productinfo/SERENADECON/

Then do you think that this is a fungal thing still since I saw small light colored bugs crawling around on the bottom of the leaf?

Aphids secrete honeydew, which turns to sooty mold if not removed. That may be the "black spots" you referred to.

So can aphids be very small smaller than the kind that you see on roses? Because these bugs that you can barely see on the pictures are tiny but they are bugs I can see them move. What would you use on the Honey suckle then to get rid of what it is just maybe a seven powder or something like that. I told her maybe seven dust or Rotenone since we use Rotenone on our vegetable plants it kills the bug by deoxygenizing it.

I can definitely ID aphids.
These are easy to kill with almost any sort of spray, including just a blast from the hose.
However, they come back no matter what you do.

There are many natural enemies of aphids.

I use insecticidal soap where I must, and allow the aphids and predators to live together wherever I can tolerate them.

I know when we first moved here there was a rose bush and it had aphids and I used to take dish soap and water mixed in a bottle and spray them with it but you are right they just kept coming back. The problem is she said that this Honey suckle is looking sickly and she figured it was being caused from whatever it was on it so maybe she should try to keep something on it for a while so that it can recuperate and get stronger. That's why I told her I thought she should use a dust that would stay on at least until it rains.
What are the natural enemies of aphids besides I think Lady bugs are one?
Also you are saying that you think from these pics you think those are aphids?

Sure looks like aphids to me!

Thanks so much and would the natural enemies of aphids be Lady bugs and what else?

There are many aphid predators aside from Lady beetles, lacewings, soldier beetles, and many birds, off the top of my head.

There are also wasps that parasitize aphids. Have you seen a fat, tan, dead body that is in the midst of a lot of live aphids? That is the 'mummy' left when the wasp babies emerge.