Am I a Good caterpillar, or a Bad caterpillar?
Caterpillar on Parsley
In my opinion, ALL caterpillars are BAD!
Well, to be honest, I like parsley, but I bought this one because a few years back, I got a parsley plant for my son (he was 5), and it had a caterpillar on it . . . kinda looked like this one. Ever since, he has asked me to get a caterpillar plant. I went to water it last night, and there it was! The heat and afternoon sun gets most of my plants, so they are mainly there to have "something" to water. So, I don't mind feeding a caterpillar. I just didn't want something that would destroy my 2 tomato plants.
That's a sweet story, if your son is still young enough to be interested..The butterfly or Texas forum will be able to instruct you on 'raising' the caterpillar to butterfly. We tried a few times when my kids were younger, but I have so many parasitic wasp that lay eggs in the caterpillars. It turned into a horror show, not quite the memories I had hoped to create.lol
Swallowtails won't bother tomatoes :0)
That caterpillar will turn into a BEAUTIFUL butterfly, if you let it... Next time, buy more parsley plants, and move the cat to it's own plant. Then, you can have some parsley, too.
We've been getting tons of these on our parsley at work, and at a nursery, there really is no way to just let 'em be... we gotta sell the stuff!! I pluck 'em off daily and put them in the ivy! < =D
(mind you, not the ivy that we sell, but the stuff growing decoratively around the crape myrtle). ;)
Speediebean,
You've got the idea! They'll reward you with a beautiful showing when the time comes!
This type if caterpillar can devour a garden in few hours!!
Syrumani,
I just finished raising three Monarch cats. If you want to do that with your butterfly caterpillar, just clip some of your parsley, wrap it in a moist paper towel and put it in a clean quart jar. Then you can clip off the piece of parsley the caterpillar is on and add it to the jar and cover the top with a piece of cheese cloth or netting using a rubber band to secure it. Keep an eye on your caterpillar--when it has finished eating all the leaves off it's parsley, remove that piece and give it a fresh stalk (clean the caterpillars droppings out of the jar at this time). Shortly, it will attach itself either to the rim of the jar or the cheese cloth hanging in a "J" shape. It will shed it's skin for the final time and form it's chrysalis. After a week or two, your butterfly will emerge. When it has dried it's wings, it will be ready to release into your flowerbed. My grandkids love to watch this process. I had a cat like yours on my dill a week ago but I left it alone because the birds don't go onto my front porch so I felt like it was safe.
oh man! Awesome idea. I wish I would have done that! I have 2- 4 year old girls that would have loved to watch it turn! Oh well, Next time.
NatureLover, what a WONDERFUL idea!!! If I see any more on the parsley at work I will collect and "save" them just like you said. I've got jars and cheese cloth around here somewhere, I'll take 'em to work with me. THANK YOU!!!
We get lots of customers with small children, it'd be a really cool "project" for them to check out when they come visit. =)
It's a real thrill for the little kids as well as the "big kids." :-} I haven't met anyone yet who isn't a little awed when they realize we can raise butterfly caterpillars. I don't remember the percentage of caterpillars that survive without human intervention but it's pretty small. I never get tired of releasing a gorgeous butterfly--their colors are at their absolute best when they first emerge. Good luck to all who pursue raising caterpillars--it's very rewarding. One other thing--sometimes, if you leave the butterfly in the jar long enough for it to dry it's wings, you can get it to walk out onto your hand just before you release it. Little kids just squeal with delight if they get to do this. This kind of project beats the heck out of learning about nature from a book.
This message was edited Jun 29, 2012 1:17 PM
Syrumani,
I just finished raising three Monarch cats. If you want to do that with your butterfly caterpillar, just clip some of your parsley, wrap it in a moist paper towel and put it in a clean quart jar. Then you can clip off the piece of parsley the caterpillar is on and add it to the jar and cover the top with a piece of cheese cloth or netting using a rubber band to secure it. Keep an eye on your caterpillar--when it has finished eating all the leaves off it's parsley, remove that piece and give it a fresh stalk (clean the caterpillars droppings out of the jar at this time). Shortly, it will attach itself either to the rim of the jar or the cheese cloth hanging in a "J" shape. It will shed it's skin for the final time and form it's chrysalis. After a week or two, your butterfly will emerge. When it has dried it's wings, it will be ready to release into your flowerbed. My grandkids love to watch this process. I had a cat like yours on my dill a week ago but I left it alone because the birds don't go onto my front porch so I felt like it was safe.
The black swallowtail caterpillars that use parsley as a host need a stick placed in the jar so they can form their chrysallis properly.
I plant fennell to keep them well fed and off my other plants. The foliage is beautiful in flower beds.
Syrumani,
I just finished raising three Monarch cats. If you want to do that with your butterfly caterpillar, just clip some of your parsley, wrap it in a moist paper towel and put it in a clean quart jar. Then you can clip off the piece of parsley the caterpillar is on and add it to the jar and cover the top with a piece of cheese cloth or netting using a rubber band to secure it. Keep an eye on your caterpillar--when it has finished eating all the leaves off it's parsley, remove that piece and give it a fresh stalk (clean the caterpillars droppings out of the jar at this time). Shortly, it will attach itself either to the rim of the jar or the cheese cloth hanging in a "J" shape. It will shed it's skin for the final time and form it's chrysalis. After a week or two, your butterfly will emerge. When it has dried it's wings, it will be ready to release into your flowerbed. My grandkids love to watch this process. I had a cat like yours on my dill a week ago but I left it alone because the birds don't go onto my front porch so I felt like it was safe.
OMG! That is a great idea! I can do that! I will go get more parsley plants tomorrow, so that I will have enough to continue feeding it. Does it need water? Or does it get that from the parsley too?
As for the stick, should it be any stick off the ground, or can I use one of the bamboo sticks I get for kabobs?
kabob sticks would be wonderful, and it gets everything it needs from the parsley. Just make sure you keep it fresh, and keep the container clean.
I had kabob sticks in all three jars for my Monarchs but they all chose to attach to either the cheese cloth or the upper neck of the jar. Of all the Monarchs I've raised, I've only had one choose to use the kabob stick. I did neglect to mention it simply because they seem to rarely use it but I always do include one just in case. Sorry about the omission--it was unintentional.
We finished building our current home eight years ago and I've been slowly planting plants that attract butterflies, hummers, and bees. I've had some swallowtails, Monarchs, zebras, and others but this year has been the best so far. I put parsley out on my front porch and, as mentioned above, had one black swallowtail caterpillar on it. I was excited but did leave it on the parsley because birds don't come onto our porch. I located it's chrysalis up under the eave of our house and I'm watching it carefully to see if I can see it emerge.
Syrumani--if you run a search for butterfly larval food, you'll find that there are several herbs they use. Most are easily raised in pots. I'm adding one new herb each spring to encourage my butterflies to lay their eggs on them. They're so beautiful to watch and it's so wonderful to have so many fluttering around all my flowers.
[quote="NatureLover1950"]I had kabob sticks in all three jars for my Monarchs but they all chose to attach to either the cheese cloth or the upper neck of the jar. Of all the Monarchs I've raised, I've only had one choose to use the kabob stick. I did neglect to mention it simply because they seem to rarely use it but I always do include one just in case. Sorry about the omission--it was unintentional.
You are right about the monarchs they usually go to the lid, or to the side of the jar, but the black swallowtails need a stick, or branch to attach themselves to. I've never seen one attach to a jar or lid like the monarchs.
I definately like your suggestion about herbs for the butterflies, as even if they don't use them as a host they they love the nectar.
I think it's dead . . . this is where the caterpillar was yesterday, but it doesn' tlook like any of the pictures I've googled for butterfly life cycles . . .
Doesn't look good, but don't know for sure what happened. Post it on the hummingbird and butterfly gardening forum, and someone will know what it is, and what happened.
ask Lepfarmer on the Texas forum. He will know.
BCH521
Until this year when I had the black swallowtail show up on my dill, I didn't have any experience with that particular butterfly. I did notice that the cat's chrysalis was formed on the rim (or side) of our eaves, not on the flat underside like I've seen Monarch do. Nature is so interesting and I never get tired of learning new things about it.
Syrumani--I actually had four Monarch's I raised recently but, while three made it to full maturity, I had one that turned black in it's chrysalis like that. I haven't had time to run a search to see what happened to it--been way too busy canning veggies from the garden. If you find out, please post here so I can know too. Thanks.
Nature
Well, I am thinking also that I will go to that website that sells the butterfly caterpillars . . . that one with the net cage - it comes with the food, etc. That way, we will still have the netted enclosure after . . .
Very nice.
How beautiful! Gives ya a warm and fuzzy Mommy-type feeling, huh? =)
Beautiful. So rewarding to provide for them, isn't it.
How beautiful! Gives ya a warm and fuzzy Mommy-type feeling, huh? =)
In my case a Daddy-type feeling, but yes u r right.
Oh my goodness BCH, I am so sorry, my apologies!! **blush** Well, you have one splendid black swallowtail there, Sir. =)
Oh my goodness BCH, I am so sorry, my apologies!! **blush** Well, you have one splendid black swallowtail there, Sir. =)
lol, no problem, glad you enjoyed the photo!
Bruce
I have a theory on what may have happened . . . Well, morning glory seeds are supposed to be "poisonous" if ingested. The way I have some pots hanging on the wall are parsley on bottem, then a loofa vine, then a morning glory pot on top. When I water, I water from the top pot, so the drainage could water the pots below. Do you think it possible that residue from the morning glory made it down to the parsley pot, and the bad stuff was absorbed into the roots that way? Poor caterpillar - yours is very pretty, BCH521!
I'm thinking it just got a parasite, or disease of some sort. I don't know if morning glories are poisonous enough to do that.
This thread is simply fascinating, and I am soooooooooooooooooooo glad the tide has turned toward doing what we can to preserve and foster the beauty that God has given us the opportunity to...^^_^^
Hugs!
Linda
This message was edited Jul 12, 2012 5:45 PM
This thread is simply fascinating, and I am soooooooooooooooooooo glad the tide has turned toward doing what we can to preserve and foster the beauty that God has given us the opportunity to do...^^_^^
Hugs!
Linda
Definitely, especially this particular type as they are real easy to move off of our parsley, dill, & fennell. They love queen ann's lace, and we all probably have some of that around!!
According to wiki, the caterpillar or parsley worm becomes an Eastern Black Swallowtail (Papilio polygenes). Just found one on mine too. Can't find this on DG and couldn't add it because I can't find the information that is required - family, genus, species. Get the error message "The order ("") and family ("Papilionidae") are not familiar to us"
Hi mygardens:
Some of the forums like BugFiles have had difficulties or hiccups of late. You could try posting over at the Insect ID forum to ask if anyone else is having the problem.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/bugid/all/
Or: post over on the DG Site Updates forum on the thread about reporting bugs found in the DG forums.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1418925/?page=8
I hope it gets sorted out for you.
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