How to compost cooked food and dog poo?

Central Valley, CA(Zone 9a)

Our city decided to cut our recycling program this year. I would like to cut down trash to a minimum to balance this out. Also, I would like to put these nutritious materials back into the soil.

I've heard of people composting dog (and cat) poop by digging a perferated pipe into the ground. Does anyone do this? How is it done? I'm cheap and really don't want to buy a green cone if I can make it myself for less.

Some people mention that they add cook food to their compost piles. I'm on the fence about this because of the potential for bad smells and attracting more vermon to the yard. Is there any type of composting systems I can construct to address these problems. Would bokashi work with cooked food? What about vermicomposting for the non-dairy and non-meat stuff?

Mid-Cape, MA(Zone 7a)

dbailey, when I googled "dog poop composting" I found several different system for making homemade compost systems for dog waste. Here's one that uses a PVC pipe in the back yard:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Big-Dog-Poop-Composter/
I haven't tried this, but I know that people do use this method.

Vermicomposting does work for vegetative scraps--I just haven't gone this route.

I think that if you can bury your cooked scraps down deep, you won't have TOO much of a problem with animals, but admittedly, I've never done this. I use the Bokashi method for all my food scraps, cooked or otherwise, including dairy, meat, and fish. There's been a recent article here on DG on this: http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/109/

Central Valley, CA(Zone 9a)

Thank you CapeCodGardener

I have been reading around the internet It seems that cooked food scraps are fine directly in the pile as long as it is properly sealed. My compost is in several perferated sealed garbage cans. Would it be okay to just incorporate this into my exisitng system? I will start out with what I eat since i'm a vegetarian. Mostly eat rice, beans, pasta, cooked greens, peanut butter and so on. I'm stil nervous about putting any dairy or meat scraps in the bins because of the smell and possible pathogens. Cooking is suppose to destroy all disease. Yet, I am still concerned that the some of the bacteria that breaks down meat and dairy is noxious. Suppose bokashi would still be best for these items.

Mid-Cape, MA(Zone 7a)

dbailey, I'm not a compost expert, but I haven't heard about noxious bacteria surviving in compost from food that has been properly-composted--I thought that cooking the food took care of that and that the worms and microbes finished the job! However, there are some wise experts on the DG Soil and Composting Forum and they may have better advice. I found the following quote on the internet which deals further with your question about composting cooked food. In my own case, I use the Bokashi-type method to "properly-compost" my scraps. Keeping a hot compost pile is another way.

From: A Martha Stewart message board on using cooked food in compost:
http://boards.marthastewart.com/topic/141356/t/no-cooked-food-in-compost-pile.html

Quoting:
Posted on Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 10:10 PM
I think it bears pointing out that you "can" - meaning it is possible to - compost meat, fish, nuts, dairy and related products. Home gardeners following traditional composting practices are advised not to for very practical reasons:

Meat, fish, nuts and dairy are generally fat-rich foods. The fat makes them strong in scent (a generally unpleasant one - although I've had no-face foods smell wretched as well) as they decompose, which will attract scent -following scavengers. Fat in a passive compost pile will persist for a while, and even in an active, heavily turned pile it is advisable to grind or puree fatty scraps to speed up decomposition. Lastly, there aren't many who enjoy the sight of maggots in the compost pile.

That having been said, several states and municipalities compost meat and find it is an effective, safe practice. The Cornell Waste Management Institute studied the composting of New York road-kill and found that pathogens of concern to humans like e coli do not subsist in properly composted road-kill as temperatures in properly managed compost are too high for them to survive. Cooked foods have the benefit of having already killed pathogens once.

I'm not suggesting everyone should compost these food items. If you have traditionally incorporated small amounts of meat, oils or dairy in an enclosed, active compost pile and neither your family nor the neighbors are complaining about the smell, it doesn't persist for weeks, and the raccoons don't line up when they see you come outside, then I wouldn't demand that you stop.

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

I read that 'Big Dog Poop' link but I don't see how that would work, and it sure would not give you good compost. I have read instructions somewhere, like people who own teams of sled dogs, using sawdust with dog stuff and making actual compost.

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 4b)

Try the bottom half of this list: http://davesgarden.com/tools/tags/tag.php?tag=poo

Central Valley, CA(Zone 9a)

Well, I have been adding cooked food to the compost bins for over two weeks now. No problems. The food is breaking down failry fast. It only has a slight smell when I turn the compost. Don't know why I didn't do it sooner. I am so excited to be adding more OM to my garden.

I haven't started composting the dog poo, yet.

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