CLOSED: Warbler ID's Please

Marlton, NJ

Saw this warbler at my sisters place. I know it is one of 2 types of warblers. I'm posting several pics of him to show some different features. BTW my sis lives near Cape May down the shore but a little inland in a large wooded area with lots of berry bushes and trees.

Lets call this bird #1

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Marlton, NJ

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Marlton, NJ

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Marlton, NJ

Notice under the feathers there is some blue/grey.

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Marlton, NJ

If you need more pics of that first bird let me know.

This next warbler should be easier except that the pics are not good because he only gave me a few seconds. Bird # 2

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Marlton, NJ

Really blurry here. Thanks for your help on these two birds.

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Sandusky, OH

Not for sure on both, but maybe for the first one a (fall) Pine Warbler and for the 2nd (fall) Prairie Warbler.

Marlton, NJ

I wasn't thinking Pine Warbler at all on the first one but thank you Burd!

Whiteside County, IL(Zone 5a)

Fluffy warbler!

Marlton, NJ

:-))

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Orange-crowned for #1 (not Pine, that has white wing bars).

Palm Warbler, yellower eastern subspecies, for #2 - note the black base to the underside of the tail and yellow undertail coverts (Prairie has all-white underside of the tail and whitish undertail coverts).

Resin

Marlton, NJ

Hi Resin, Thank you.

Did you consider immature Mourning Warbler? That was one that my photos seem to match seeing that this one has a brownish hood instead of grey on an immature Orange-crowned.

Thanks!

Sandusky, OH

I ruled out Orange-crowned because of all the yellow on No.1. I thought Pine Warbler because my field guide said wing-bars are duller in fall and winter. No.2 was a toss up between Prairie and (Yellow) Palm Warbler, got it wrong. Getting it wrong only helps me get better, but fall Warbler's are very challenging to say the least.

Marlton, NJ

I appreciate the effort Burd! They (fall ones) are difficult.

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Took another look at the first warbler, and brightened it in photoshop - turns out (somewhat to my surprise) it's another Palm Warbler - note again the undertail pattern of a black base and white outer half. Sorry, not Mourning, that's structurally different, with a shorter, broader tail (all-dark below) that only extends a short way beyond the undertail coverts.

Resin

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Marlton, NJ

Thanks for the second look Resin! LOL, I guess I should have kept my mouth shut because an Orange-crowned would have been a new bird for me but I would rather have the truth anyway.

Thanks again! ^_^

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

T'was my turn for a new bird today . . . Britain's first-ever Eastern Crowned Warbler (from northeastern China!) was found not far from here, so I went to see it this afternoon. Photos here http://www.birdguides.com/bne/details.asp?thread=588137 (if you can see it - may be subscribers only)

Resin

Marlton, NJ

Subscribers only. Congrats!

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

This one should be OK: http://www.birdguides.com/webzine/article.asp?a=1784

Resin

Marlton, NJ

Very cool!!!!

Sandusky, OH

Congrats on the new bird Resin!

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Thanks! Definitely a good one to see - it's come at least 7,000 km to get here.

It's even been on the national news headlines http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/8322447.stm

Resin

Sandusky, OH

That's quite a distance to stray, was he eating anything?

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Yep, it was eating aphids a lot, and also catching larger flies. It's still mild here so it wasn't having any difficulty finding food.

Resin

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Cripes, it's even got the 'Local Boy Makes Good' treatment!!
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/hqbl/2009-10/25/content_8844673.htm

Translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&langpair=zh-CN|en&u=http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/hqbl/2009-10/25/content_8844673.htm

Seems it's moved on though, no sign today according to birdline reports.

Resin

Whiteside County, IL(Zone 5a)

Ha! Look at that Crowd. Where are you in the picture! ;-)

Sandusky, OH

See what happens when a UFO gets spotted. lol That's some crowd. Wonder if the lil fellow knows hes a star. :)

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Don't worry, I'm not in that pic! ;-)

Resin

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